organic beef hot dogs

http://www.HERSKANSAS.com/stories/062004/new_coverstory.shtml
Here's a hot dog story that is pretty neat. Decided I posted it in the wrong place previously. It looks like she's a success story in the making.
What do the lack of nitrites ans MSG do to the taste? Do most dogs have them added?

Thanks, Bill! I'm going to look into these. Yes, most weiners, although tasty, are tubes filled with toxic ingredients. (Ok, I'm getting in touch with my "liberal" side here. )

I appreciate you posting this.

(edited for bad grammer )

Hey, hey! No talk of touching one's self and weiners.

CW, CW. What am I going to do with you??

Found her website. Can't order off the site, but I'm going to email her and see if they'll ship some.

http://bossiesbest.com/index.htm

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Originally posted by Bushie

CW, CW. What am I going to do with you??

Found her website. Can't order off the site, but I'm going to email her and see if they'll ship some.

http://bossiesbest.com/index.htm

Bushie---let us know what you find out---i,d LOVE to get a good "dog" ---quality hot dogs are tough to find here--I've given up on local ones and stick with Brats----theres a guy here that makes a local produced buffalo brat that is killer!----BUT--i shure do miss my hot dogs!

Nitrites and MSG put hair on your chest!

See ya
Steve

MSG enhances flavor--it takes flavors already in the mix, and makes them more intense. It's actually a natural product, not a chemically synthesized one, by the way.

Nitrites/Nitrates are preservatives and color-retention additives. They keep your hot dog "red," not that sickly gray they can turn when not handled properly.

Nitrites/Nitrates react to form nitrosamines in your body, which are closely associated with several types of cancer. For this reason, most manufacturers using Sodium Nitrate or Nitrite add erythorbate, which, in combination with the other preservatives prevent the formation of the harmful compounds during digestion.

On the bonus side, Sodium Nitrate inhibits botulism in cured meats. It also, in high dosage, is the antidote to cyanide poisoning. So if you get a cyanide-spiked cocktail from an arch-enemy, down a few dirty water dogs, and you should be fine.

its not the nitrates or the msg they put in all the locally available franks that bothers me---it the FLAVOR THEY LEAVE OUT! i like eating "natural" and organic products but to be bruataully honest--i BUY flavor--makes no difference how good it is for ya--if it taste like crud--why bother--juat ask any 6 yr old, and there are plenty of organic vegies around that simply dont thrill me--for instance, i have seen organic vegies for sale that were great looking but had NO flavor---often grown with seeds that were developed for modern production methods. i also like the flavor of grass fed beef---and i cant tell the differecne betreen beef fed on organic or chemically fertilized beef but i CAN tell it from feed lot beef. So if i have a chance of a good organic hot dog existing--im betting that the odds of it beeing tasty go up when you factor in the fact that it made by a lady farmer from Kansas rather then a commercial meat packer in who know where with a recipe that what put together by a corporate test kitchen!

hey Tiki, I'm with you on the flavor thing. That's why I was interested in her attempts to get it to taste "good". I'm also interested in whether our collective taste buds can no longer experience subtlety. When I buy organic coffee out here in Oregon, the taste never seems to be as intense as the other beans.. Same with the chicken & vegetables labeled natural and organic That makes me wonder about our ability to accept what may really be the true flavor of stuff. Have we been so inundated for so long with processed food of all stripes that now we HAVE to have the intensified flavor because it's what we associate with "good tasting"? I find myself falling into that trap too
and so that's why the question about what makes the flavor in something; the chemicals used for processing, or the flavor of the product itself.

Why should organic mean bland? When I visited Thailand years ago, they had chickens running around everywhere you went. They were the most beautiful birds you've ever seen. I read in a guidebook that chickens came from that area of the world originally, and the birds I saw were probably of the "proto-chicken" variety. I'm sure they were fed what we would term "organic" feeds, because the people who grew them wouldn't have known a chemical enhancer if they saw it. These chickens tasted like CHICKENS with a capital K! It was the same flavor as the chickens we get here, just ten times as intense. My theory is that the natural taste of things is glow in the dark goodness. If something comes out bland, they're doing something wrong with it.

See ya
Steve Doggie-Dogg

Hey steve! Cool blog! Roadfood's kind of a bunch of long running blogs where everyone can combine food and life experiences.
I don't think organic should mean less intense flavor and I would hope it would be more intense, but I'm 52 and raised in the city, so my experience is minimal with stuff other than store bought processed foods.I just like hot dogs and hope these are good enough to make a mark. There don't seem to be saugages made with organic meats on the market. It may be a new niche.
Bill

In New York, many supermarkets sell a brand of hot dog called Applegate Farms, that has no nitrates. They also have nitrate-free bacon and (yuck) nitrate-free chicken franks. Maybe there's a market in your area that carries Applegate Farms, so you won't have to order online and pay a shipping charge.

Sorry I never got back to y'all about this.

I emailed her back then, and she responded that she could not legally ship out of Kansas.

She said they were worth the drive up there to pick up a box, though!

"Whatcha', doing with that string o' weiners, boy?" "....uh,nuttin' officer. I'm on a Mission from God
to get these Dogs to Bushie. " Maybe I can recreate Cannonball run 2005 down I-35. Sure you could play the Pat Mc Cormick part, but who'd take the Paul Williams role?
(I snagged Burt's spot for myself)

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Originally posted by bill voss

"Whatcha', doing with that string o' weiners, boy?" "....uh,nuttin' officer. I'm on a Mission from God
to get these Dogs to Bushie. " Maybe I can recreate Cannonball run 2005 down I-35. Sure you could play the Pat Mc Cormick part, but who'd take the Paul Williams role?
(I snagged Burt's spot for myself)

LOL. I'll pay ya extra if ya make it from Oregon to Round Rock in 48 hours.

Now, the REAL question is, who's gonna play Sally Fields

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Originally posted by bill voss

"Whatcha', doing with that string o' weiners, boy?" "....uh,nuttin' officer. I'm on a Mission from God
to get these Dogs to Bushie. " Maybe I can recreate Cannonball run 2005 down I-35. Sure you could play the Pat Mc Cormick part, but who'd take the Paul Williams role?
(I snagged Burt's spot for myself)

LOL!! OK Bill---you distract the Interstate commerce folks---I'll slip in behind ya with the truck;oad of weiners!!!!!---but I,m dropping a load of them hoff here in Oklahoma!

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Originally posted by Bushie

quote:

Originally posted by bill voss

"Whatcha', doing with that string o' weiners, boy?" "....uh,nuttin' officer. I'm on a Mission from God
to get these Dogs to Bushie. " Maybe I can recreate Cannonball run 2005 down I-35. Sure you could play the Pat Mc Cormick part, but who'd take the Paul Williams role?
(I snagged Burt's spot for myself)

LOL. I'll pay ya extra if ya make it from Oregon to Round Rock in 48 hours.

Now, the REAL question is, who's gonna play Sally Fields

REDTRESSED!!!!Who else!!!

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Originally posted by Bushie

Sorry I never got back to y'all about this.

I emailed her back then, and she responded that she could not legally ship out of Kansas.

She said they were worth the drive up there to pick up a box, though!

What law would keep her from shipping out of Kansas?!? That's just backward in this day and age...

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5522
...must be THESE folks.

Well I called Nancy and we chatted a while. She told me all about her ranch and her ranching philosophy. Sounded too good to be true. I was hoping she might be selling her dogs somewhere near me since I am about 200 miles away. Alas, no such luck. Then out of the blue she offered to send me a pack to see what I thought. I was nervous about mailing, but she pointed out they are fully cooked so there was no issue in shipping.

They got here yesterday morning and I will tell you, man they are good. They do look a bit odd, kinda like thick jerky sticks, and boy can you smell the smoking they take. I had my wife grill one up for me for lunch (eventually it was two of them, the rest sadly, for me, eaten by my wife and daughters). Put it on a fresh sourdough bun and took a bite. I should point out these are 100% beef and caseless.

A quick aside: In the last few months my stomach has become increasingly finicky about what it wants to accept. Letting me know with light nausea if I made a bad choice. A lot of my favorite foods, alas do not measure up to my stomach's demands. So I have become increasingly cautious about what I eat. After the first one of these dogs, I was ready for the worst, and guess what, no probs!

Well my measure of a good dog is if it needs condiments. It definately passed this test. Very nicely spiced, a little light perhaps on some spices, but the smoking takes care of that. It is much denser than most dogs on the market. A real mouthful. This is not a New York, Chicago, California or southern dog. This is a unique taste for the dog world. Almost a true sausage, but still definately a dog. If you know anyone in the Kansas City KANSAS area have them pick you up a few packs, you'll definately be glad you did. I have to take my daughter up to KC for her flight back to school. Guess what I plan on stocking up on?

Hey ya Mr. T, wonderin' how your trip up to the ranch(or lawrence) went. I really enjoyed your update re talking to Nancy. Maybe you can be her SE Ks. distributor.
Bill

MisterTawny--any law against YOU sending a few packs to someone in another state I'd gladly send you the costs plus---and i wouldnt be surprised if ithers--maybe Bushie-wouldnt also. I'd love to try these--the dogs in Ok are a disappointment.--not bad "Conies" but without the chili and onions and cheese---bland -bland -bland-mostly tasting of "beef-pork-chicken"--(the marketing term for "what ever crap meats we have around")--OR--i will swap ya---i'll send you two coils of Loveras smoked Italian sausage for two packs of those organic dogs!

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Originally posted by tiki

MisterTawny--any law against YOU sending a few packs to someone in another state I'd gladly send you the costs plus---and i wouldnt be surprised if ithers--maybe Bushie-wouldnt also. I'd love to try these--the dogs in Ok are a disappointment.--not bad "Conies" but without the chili and onions and cheese---bland -bland -bland-mostly tasting of "beef-pork-chicken"--(the marketing term for "what ever crap meats we have around")--OR--i will swap ya---i'll send you two coils of Loveras smoked Italian sausage for two packs of those organic dogs!

I'm going over to Wichita week after next and I can pick up a few packs. Anyone else interested????

The ones we got up in KC went away FAST! Our friends kids were a little taken aback by the look of the dog, but after the first bite it was no contest, and the dogs won. I didn't know a 65 pound 11 year old girl could eat 6 hot dogs at a sitting!

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Originally posted by mistertawny

I'm going over to Wichita week after next and I can pick up a few packs. Anyone else interested????

The ones we got up in KC went away FAST! Our friends kids were a little taken aback by the look of the dog, but after the first bite it was no contest, and the dogs won. I didn't know a 65 pound 11 year old girl could eat 6 hot dogs at a sitting!

I'M INTERESTED!!!

Please contact me if you want an "order".

I am definately interested!---let me know re the details--do you want me to send you some of the Lovera's sausage?--check them out at www.iloveitalian.com and let me know---i will subscribe to this foroum so just post here with the details and i will get the word.-----ya know---6 hot dogs at a sitting for a 65lb girl is a heck of an endorsement!!