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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/23 14:31:48 (permalink)
And Wegman's.
 
Dear Wegmans Customer,

You recently contacted us concerning ground beef. We explained that our ground beef did not contain ammoniated meat. In spite of that fact, Danny Wegman issued a statement today announcing that we will soon transition to carrying ground beef that does not contain lean finely textured beef, even though our product was not treated with ammonium hydroxide. Here is the statement: 

“We’ve made a decision to stop selling ground beef that contains Lean Finely Textured Beef. Having grown up in the meat business, we have always been proud of our ground beef and eat it ourselves. Because of the sensationalism of this issue it has become a concern for our customers. Every decision we make is with our customers in mind. Our commitment remains the same. We will continue to source the best quality ground beef, now without lean finely textured beef.” 

We are working with our supplier to transition to the new product as soon as possible. Until then, we will continue to carry ground beef that contains lean finely textured beef. As a choice, we offer Wegmans Organic and Wegmans Food You Feel Good About ground beef, neither of which contain lean finely textured beef.

Sincerely,

Jo Natale
Wegmans Consumer Affairs Department 
 
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/23 15:44:44 (permalink)
It's refreshing to know that:
 
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/24 23:06:13 (permalink)
MetroplexJimI'm beginning to have a whole new respect for Texas Brisket. 

These parts, it's typically $5.00 a pound. And consider that you lose about half of it in cooking, and it becomes a pretty expensive cut.
 
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/25 18:16:23 (permalink)
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/25 20:58:37 (permalink)
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heres the new updated list:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/2012/03/19/who-sells-meat-with-pink-slime-here%E2%80%99s-the-list/


 
 
Looks like Safeway is on both the "no' pink slime list and the "yes" pink slime list.  ?????????
 
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/25 21:46:58 (permalink)
My Safeway has ground beef and what they call "market trim".....I suppose the market trim is just that, from the days meat cuttings, and is generally in the case only in the afternoon. It always tasted better and did not shrink.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/26 08:38:05 (permalink)
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My Safeway has ground beef and what they call "market trim".....I suppose the market trim is just that, from the days meat cuttings, and is generally in the case only in the afternoon. It always tasted better and did not shrink.


"Market trim", my a$$.  Sounds like "FTB" to me. 
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/26 09:46:17 (permalink)
MJ, I'm with you  on that. If it was beef, they'd say 100% beef.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/26 13:10:42 (permalink)
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/26 15:05:58 (permalink)
My heart goes out to the workers at those plants; seems a shame that the muckety mucks that approved this couldn't lose their jobs.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/26 15:23:35 (permalink)
Did you, by chance, add up the production figures for the three plants that were closed?  They produced 900,000 pounds of pink slime a day!  That is 450 tons every single day!  Totally unbelievable. 
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/03/26 19:07:26 (permalink)
The USA is one big, hungry country.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/03 15:57:13 (permalink)
Was in my local Marsh Supermarket today and they had very prominently displayed stickers stating that none of their ground meat had pink slime in. Never had it, never will. Glad to hear that! Especially, since the quality if their meats has gone down recently.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 09:33:56 (permalink)

AFA Foods Files Bankruptcy Citing ‘Pink Slime’ Coverage

AFA Foods, a ground-beef processor owned by Yucaipa Cos., sought bankruptcy court protection with a plan to sell some assets after media coverage of “pink slime” cut demand for its products.
The company, based in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, listed assets of $219 million and debt of $197 million in Chapter 11 papers filed today in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Delaware.
Celebrity chef Jamie Oliver is among food activists who have criticized the use of what they dubbed “pink slime,” a filler produced by treating finely ground beef scraps with ammonia hydroxide to kill pathogens. Beef Products Inc. last week temporarily suspended production at three plants because of consumer concerns. U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said March 28 that the product, referred to in the industry as lean, finely textured beef, is safe to eat.
“Ongoing media attention has called into question the wholesomeness” of the meat, and has “dramatically reduced the demand for all ground beef products,” AFA interim Chief Executive Officer Ron Allen said in court papers.
Ground beef demand will soften in the next several months as consumers shift to meat that doesn’t contain the lean, finely textured beef, said Ann Gurkin, an analyst for Davenport & Co. Last month, the USDA said schools in the government’s lunch program can order ground beef without the product following public pressure to remove it from cafeterias.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 10:34:59 (permalink)
"Food product" that must be treated with ammonia because of fecal contamination being called "wholesome" was a stretch. I guess those two governors that were pushing it didn't buy enough for their own familes.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 13:00:16 (permalink)
They basically made burgers into hot hotdogs..... It is unfortunate but apparently a necessary evil to make beef an affordable product, the cost of ground beef is said to increase 40% without the additive.

The "pink slime" or FTB is edible maybe not desirable and has been used in ground beef products for many years. This fight is a double edged sword.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 13:29:40 (permalink)
Hey now...easy on the hot dogs.

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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 13:33:38 (permalink)
Affordable?  I suppose if they treated urine and added it to soda pop, Coke, Pepsi and RC might be cheaper. No thanks. I'll pay more for my hamburger. Don't let anyone slip it in under its other name either There is both lean finely textured beef (LFTB) or boneless lean beef trimmings (BLBT) and I don't want either.
I however have no problem if you want to buy some, just have it labeled as such, so those of us who don't want to eat any can avoid it.
 
post edited by MilwFoodlovers - 2012/04/04 13:45:38
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 15:59:12 (permalink)
Sapphirebistro They basically made burgers into hot hotdogs..... It is unfortunate but apparently a necessary evil to make beef an affordable product, the cost of ground beef is said to increase 40% without the additive.

The "pink slime" or FTB is edible maybe not desirable and has been used in ground beef products for many years. This fight is a double edged sword.

 
Why compare this to dogs? How do you figure that?
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 21:39:58 (permalink)
AFA Foods Files Bankruptcy Citing ‘Pink Slime’ Coverage.
Cause of demise???
Death by Media!!
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 22:49:02 (permalink)
Just making a comparison the previous use of "variety meats" or MSM as a filler in hotdogs is very similar to this product.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/04 22:56:05 (permalink)
I'm not making any negative contextual statements regarding hotdogs, I Agee with Milwfoodlovers they need to label this product just like the FDA did with hotdogs.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 00:19:23 (permalink)
He didn't even mention hot dogs and you evidently don't know anything about them.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 01:05:30 (permalink)
So many of the hotdog producers did not use "variety meats" or "MSM" (Mechcanically Seperated Meats- a paste-like and batter-like meat product produced by forcing less than desirable meat products through a sieve) as filler for hotdogs in the past.

Or the USDA did not have to step in and force the producers of said product to disclose use of these products on labels?

I realize that no one mentioned hotdogs, that's why I did, because this is "similar" to but not exactly like 2004 When the FSIS claimed MSM was safe but Fortunatly it is no longer allowed in hotdogs due to fear of contamination.

I was making a comparison Dr. because this seems similar to me.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 01:19:41 (permalink)
And if not FTB .... Then they will just find another fill product, rather have FTB than horse meat :( just saying.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 07:32:01 (permalink)
Sapphirebistro, I would take filet of mustang over a$$ of heifer.  
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 08:47:56 (permalink)
Sapphirebistro:
You obviously have no problem with additive products in ground beef, and that is your prerogative.  I think that what everyone is trying to say is that the retail store/wholesaler/manufacturer should be required to list the percentage/quantity of any additive (FTB, BLBT, LFTB or any other set of letters you want to use) on the consumer's package label and let the consumer decide if they want to buy it or not!  If it is cheaper and/or you have no problem with it, more power to you.  Go ahead and buy it, use it and enjoy it.  If, however, you want to purchase only freshly ground pure beef and nothing else, at whatever price that is, you should have that option also!  And this applies to kids in school too.  Their parent's should have the knowledge of what exactly the kids are being fed, and the option of providing an alternate meal for them if they wish to.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 09:52:04 (permalink)
I am defiantly not a preponiate of additives never said I was, in fact I think it quite disgusting, my family always raised their own cattle so I never really had to buy beef from the store. I was merely stating the other side of the argument because this isn't just black or white, FTB serves a purpose albeit a repugnant one.
My point was, this was not the first time the "government" had to step in to assure proper labeling on food additives, and is defiantly not the first instance where edible did not mean disirable. This is an example of businesses cutting or in this case adding corners to make a buck...it is unfortunately going to happen in a free market system.
Again not arguing for pink slime, just stating the facts. :)
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 10:06:32 (permalink)
Sapphirebistro I realize that no one mentioned hotdogs, that's why I did, because this is "similar" to but not exactly like 2004 When the FSIS claimed MSM was safe but Fortunatly it is no longer allowed in hotdogs due to fear of contamination. I was making a comparison Dr. because this seems similar to me.

 
Your statement is misleading. The process in making dogs is slightly similar but the meat is not washed with ammonia. But instead ground and mixed with spices so it can be formed into the dog shape while being cooked/smoked. And your reference to the 2004 ruling is only true about MSM (Beef) not pork or chicken meats used in dogs. And it was about that time (in fact before the ruling) that most sausage companies switched to all brisket for all beef hot dogs. And that is still true today. So your entire statement tends to malign hot dogs for no reason. But nice try.
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Re:pink slime meat product in burger meat? 2012/04/05 17:54:04 (permalink)
anyone bashes dogs around  here will be tarred and feathered and served as an apetizer for some newt gingrich fund raiser. now, go back over there and put your nose in the corner,...
 
(just jokin and pickin on no one before anyone gets offended)
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