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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/15 20:42:00 (permalink)
I'm not big on pastry or sweets, but my exception is Black & White cakes, which was a favorite in my Brooklyn youth and still is today.
 
The two best I encountered for the first time in 2013 were Mother's Bakery in the Bronx (as a dessert after a throwback lunch at Liebman's Deli right next door), and The Donut Pub on W 14th Street.
 
Needless to say, both these places are over 50 years old.
 
About Stukel, after reading the article, I see it's another name for Knoblewurst. OK, now I know it, just never heard it called Stukel. I do recall trying it once at the 2nd Avenue Deli and it reminded me of Knockwurst, which I'm not a fan of, much as I like most other wursts.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/15 22:13:01 (permalink)
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New Yorkers often believe Manhattan is an island or something.

In the case of the black & white cookie...there just aren't many bakeries on Manhattan that aren't big designer productions or little boutiques ...that could be bothered with a black & white cookie.

Several over here including Abbate Bakery in Matawan are bothered fresh & daily...


This outfit in MA makes them as good as any available in greater NYC 50 years ago and they sell them throughout the US to other retailers - we get ours at Buskens Bakery in Cinci:
http://www.superiorcake.com/

 
The iconic NYC "black & white" cookie is alive and well in Dallas at a small number of deli's & bakeries. Most notably at Deli-News.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/15 23:47:42 (permalink)
Liebman's is a fantastic hidden gem in the Bronx.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 00:39:48 (permalink)
Great Sicilian pizza as it used to be on a consistent basis is a lilttle vulnerable thanks to Grandma...

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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 09:07:26 (permalink)
Just to clarify, what  I referred to as Black and White "Cakes" is what everyone else here is calling Black and White "Cookies", not Brooklyn Blackout Cakes, which is a whole other thing.
 
In my house they were always "Cakes" not "Cookies". I just asked my wife what she called them, and she said simply "Black and Whites".
 
So there you go, 3 variations.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 10:13:57 (permalink)
A Knish from a street vendor in NYC last year, it made my day........He asked, you want mustard.....yes, I want mustard..Salt and pepper too.
  
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 17:54:31 (permalink)
Folks can keep their potato knishes. Fill my flaky knishes with chopped liver.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 18:03:46 (permalink)
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A Knish from a street vendor in NYC last year, it made my day........He asked, you want mustard.....yes, I want mustard..Salt and pepper too.
 

I've never heard of mustard on a knish before, but since I love both of them, I will have to give it a try some time. Sounds like a yummy combination!
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 18:15:15 (permalink)
I loved my late grandmothers (baked, not fried) potato and onion knishes. Everything was made from scratch! She also made chopped liver knishes and kasha knishes but the potato and onion were my favorite. Before my grandparents, mom, and all 11 aunts and uncles came to America from Odessa, Russia, she actually grew her own potatoes and onions!
Knishes.....
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 18:16:57 (permalink)
I loved a good strong, Jewish deli mustard with my knish.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 18:52:51 (permalink)
LOVE chopped liver!!!!!!!!
 
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 19:28:09 (permalink)
I do as well! My Grandmother made real old fashioned "from the old country" chopped liver with gribenes! Oy! To die for spread on a slice of fresh seeded Jewish rye bread with a light schmear of chicken fat and a little extra gribenes on top.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 20:06:16 (permalink)
I remember a deli from my youth that served a massive corn beef sandwich with a layer of chopped liver. Great
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 20:30:26 (permalink)
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I remember a deli from my youth that served a massive corn beef sandwich with a layer of chopped liver. Great

My favorite sandwich is still chopped liver and pastrami on rye. It used to be that I could go into the Stage Deli on Fairfax in L.A. and just order a Joey Bishop, but they are gone now. These days I usually order a two meat sandwich and have them make it up. A combination made in Heaven!
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 20:44:23 (permalink)
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I remember a deli from my youth that served a massive corn beef sandwich with a layer of chopped liver. Great

My favorite sandwich is still chopped liver and pastrami on rye. It used to be that I could go into the Stage Deli on Fairfax in L.A. and just order a Joey Bishop, but they are gone now. These days I usually order a two meat sandwich and have them make it up. A combination made in Heaven!

 
Are you talking about Los Angeles? The only deli I remember on Fairfax Avenue is Canters. Never knew of a Stage Deli on Fairfax in LA.
http://www.cantersdeli.com/
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 22:18:02 (permalink)
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I remember a deli from my youth that served a massive corn beef sandwich with a layer of chopped liver. Great

My favorite sandwich is still chopped liver and pastrami on rye. It used to be that I could go into the Stage Deli on Fairfax in L.A. and just order a Joey Bishop, but they are gone now. These days I usually order a two meat sandwich and have them make it up. A combination made in Heaven!


Are you talking about Los Angeles? The only deli I remember on Fairfax Avenue is Canters. Never knew of a Stage Deli on Fairfax in LA.
http://www.cantersdeli.com/

 
When I was growing up, there were three major delis on Fairfax. Canters was, and is, the "tourist/film/music industry" hangout. most of the Jewish people and others who appreciated real deli food either went to the Bagel Deli or the Stage Deli. Canter's is north of Beverly Blvd. while those two were south, in what these days has turned into a section of Fairfax with Ethiopian restaurants and shops. The Stage was somewhat of a hangout for show biz people, but ones who wanted the real thing. All the sandwiches were named after customers----Jack Benny, Joey Bishop, etc. The Bagel was just a really good traditional deli. Both of those, IMHO, were much better than Canters. Eventually that section of Fairfax south of Olympic changed into what is officially called "Little Ethiopia", but by then they were both long gone. 
 
The Bagel Deli
 
 
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/16 23:36:32 (permalink)
For me....

One = just... a black & white

More than one = black & white cookies

But the crumb of a black & white should be like cake.

These days Blackouts are usually cupcakes or donuts in NYC.
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/17 00:20:10 (permalink)
Ed,
I'm in southern California next month teaching two classes at our LA campus. Here's where I get my pastrami fix:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD_jyvcUGaQ  for a pastrami dip
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll49yVhBOCA    for a 19
 
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Re:"Vanishing" Foods of New York City 2014/01/17 00:27:29 (permalink)
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Ed,
I'm in southern California next month teaching two classes at our LA campus. Here's where I get my pastrami fix:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD_jyvcUGaQ  for a pastrami dip
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll49yVhBOCA    for a 19

CSD

Good choices, CSD. I've been to Johnnies many times---used to work down the street from them at Sony Pictures. Langer's of course......still the best pastrami around. I had noticed you were going to be here and was going to message you on FB. Maybe you'll have time to meet me for a meal!
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