green sauces and salsas+chile verde

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (MN Locavore)

Sat, 02 May 2009 08:50:37 GMT

Joe, yup, that is it! THANKS!

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Fri, 01 May 2009 15:06:27 GMT

MN, that's the LaCostina I mentioned earlier..I think? I used their chipotles in adobo to make my copycat Benny Binion's Real Texas Chili. That is also my fav brand of pickled jalapenos.
Joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (MN Locavore)

Fri, 01 May 2009 12:26:59 GMT

I stumbled across this place - though I've known about it for years - Googling Los Barrios' chimichurri sauce, that I STILL am not able to get the recipe for and it's been 23 YEARS! If any one has or knows of this recipe, or is able to get it... PLEASE let me know.

Also, regarding sauce (bottled) condiments, my fav - I gave up the Bufalo chipotle for this - is the habanero El Yucateco sauce. Pronounced by affecianados as "El Yucky Tech O" due to the wonderful radiated, shockingly bright green color.

My favorite canned sauce is - and danged if I can't remember the name right now - are the chipotles in adobo that come with the garishly ill orange label with lady on the front. Simply my opinion, but I find them (sauce and chiles) superior to Hernandez and San Marcos. Smokier, less bitter and 'vinegar-y' and more delicate with greater bouquet than the latter two.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (1bbqboy)

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:43:11 GMT

EliseT

Thanks, I got kind of lost.

My Roadfood motto.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (carolina bob)

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:26:50 GMT

My favorite Mexican restaurant, Jalapeno's in Schererville IN, makes a dynamite green salsa that's quite a bit hotter than their regular red stuff. Only problem is that they charge a buck extra for it.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (MGWerks)

Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:18:36 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by BR

I agree with MGWerks... you must be talking about chimichurri. Just whiz together a handful of parsley, 1/4 lemon or lime juiced, several cloves of garlic, 1/2 tsp red pepper flakes, S&P, 1-2 T red wine vinegar and drizzle olive oil in to the desired consistency. It's very good on a nice rare steak.

And try substituting cilantro for half (or all) of the parsley for a fresher peppery taste!

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (allyk)

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:01:39 GMT

Interesting--my fiance', who is from El Salvador refers to all Latinos as "Spanish". The gringos in our area refer to all Latinos as Hispanic. And I have a Cuban friend who says only persons of Spanish ancestry are Hispanic. I've always assumed "Latino" was the proper term. Hey--whatever happened to "Chicano"?

quote:
Originally posted by Jennifer_4

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<div style="border: 1px #999999 solid; background-color: #DCDCDC; padding: 4px;">Originally posted by Richard Brooks Alba

Folks,

I remember from my youth the Mexican restaurant 'gringo' shuffle: "Is green hotter than red - or milder? I forget." And that question STILL seems to get posed far too often in a place that should fundamentally understand that it all depends on the ingredients. If you don't know your chiles (and even if you do - the naming conventions have gotten pretty sloppy because of lapses of attention, memory, mental discipline, whatever...), you have to sample. "What if it's too hot?" Always sample as if it will be. Those of us who have been eating this stuff since infancy still sample [unless we really already know] before diving in. I long ago gave up trying to get people to just taste, rather tha play '20 Questions' to determine whether their tastebuds might be at risk for permanent damage. I now encourage those folks to eat something besides Mexican, lest a stray pepper injure their digestive tract.

Even within my own family, there's a tremendous breadth of variation in how we prepare our salsas - my mom cooked all her salsas, my sister does it all in a blender, and I like to blacken my chiles [fresh serranos, typically] and tomatoes before I chop up my salsa fresca. We all like tomatillos, but almost never make salsa featuring them - consequently, our family gatherings can feature 100% red salsas. (Unless I make my yellow salsa [yellow tomatoes, pineapple and/or mango, serranos, lime juice, easy on the cilantro] for some nice grilled fish.)
Buena suerte,
Richard
Berkeley/SF, CA

P.S. The usage of "Hispanic" in this forum (and elsewhere in the universe) warrants some attention here. Except in reference to things or people from Spain - or of, or under, Spanish influence - "Hispanic" isn't properly used to describe all peoples from - or with origins in - Latin America. Many, but not all, speak [or come from traditions of speaking] Spanish. The preferred term for this group, at least in the communities that I've encountered in my limited travels, is "Latino." The term is used for broad-community references, not for narrow-community reference. In the same way that "European cuisine" would lump 'Wiener Schnitzel' with 'bangers & mash,' "Latino cuisine" would lump 'tacos de pescado' with a 'Cuban sandwich.' For the purpose of this forum, 'Mexican' (and other nationalist references) is exactly what's called for. Where things get especially confusing - and why "Hispanic" muddies the water - is that there are foods mentioned here that are pre-Hispanic (or 'pre-Columbian,' if you prefer), like corn tortillas. (Other pre-Hispanic offerings would include tomatoes & chocolate.) Many folks that you might find in California & elsewhere in the Americas today were never vanquished by the Spanish - only recently, in the time of agricultural collapse in their communities of origin, have they even learned a little Spanish [& more recently, English] to get by economically. Latinos understand & [mostly] accept "Latino" - Latinos understand & [often] resent "Hispanic." While not exactly derogatory, it does push our buttons. Think how you would feel if you were called 'English' for the fact that you spoke English, rather than be called 'American.' In some places, 'Hispanic' is used as code for Latinos who have 'pure' European/Spanish blood - so if you think you can tell them apart by looking, they are most definitely NOT 'Hispanic'....

I find that rather amusing because the Mexican political groups here in Cali were the ones to demand the use of the term "Hispanic", and only the barrio dwellers were using "Latino" at one time..dunno how it is up north where you are Richard, but that's the climate here in the central valley.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (tmiles)

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:28:23 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by paoconnell

In New Mexico, "green chile" is literally made of roasted, chopped green chile with spices, garlic and onion, maybe a little chicken, vegetable, or pork stock. Add chunks of pork or other meat (beef, chicken and lamb are good too) and potatoes and maybe tomato, and you have green chile stew. Very simple; we make it at home because the local Wal Mart grocer carries frozen chopped green chile.

NewMex food doesn't use tomatillos at all, except in fusion food in Santa Fe restaurants.

Now I am burning space to cover my mistake. When I replied to the above quote, I cut out the part that I didn't need to save space. I took out toooooo much when I deleted to original posters name.......sorry

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (tmiles)

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:25:26 GMT

quote:
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NewMex food doesn't use tomatillos at all, except in fusion food in Santa Fe restaurants.

I used tomatillos for the first time this summer. Also called "husk tomatoes", I find them to be a nice addition to a lot of mixtures. Mine came from a friend. I plan to grow some next summer.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (BR)

Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:10:23 GMT
I agree with MGWerks... you must be talking about chimichurri. Just whiz together a handful of parsley, 1/4 lemon or lime juiced, several cloves of garlic, 1/2 tsp red pepper flakes, S&P, 1-2 T red wine vinegar and drizzle olive oil in to the desired consistency. It's very good on a nice rare steak.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (MGWerks)

Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:36:16 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by PapaJoe8

Ok, I found my favorite brand of Salsa Verde... Herdez. Not that I dont't like almost all Salsa Verdes but this brand is the one I like best.
Joe, the Herdez group makes[url='http://www.herdeztraditions.com/products/default.aspx']many fine salsas[/url] besides the verde, and I can vouch for over half of them. But a real prize, also manufactured by Herdez, is the [url='http://www.herdeztraditions.com/products/hot_sauce.aspx']BÚFALO[/url] brand of hot sauces. They are thicker, like A-1, and have much of the pepper's fruit flavors intact, instead of the vinegary flavor of most other sauces. Made and used in Mexico for 50 years, it only runs a buck or two a bottle. I go through 2-3 bottles a month - by myself.

quote:
Originally posted by NYNM

What about the green sauce served in Spanish (Spain) restaurants? I believe the main ingredient is parsley....(oil, garlic, etc.)

I'm betting that the salsa you are looking for is chimichurri, most often associated with South American churrasco cooking. Many different recipes for it on the net, but my favorite chimichurri, at Los Barrios in San Antonio, has as yet escaped either my searching or duplication at home. Experimenting continues...

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (wfmitchell)

Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:03:26 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by tdeneek

We planted a whole bunch of tomatillo plants last summer and when they started to ripen we realized we had no idea what to do with them. (anyone else ever plant anything just for fun?) Anyway, we found a really simple salsa recipe and with a few moderations, WOW was it good. We took chips and salsa to every bbq we went to. We also sold a ton of them at our farmers market, we have a fairly large mexican population up here, and they really like buying fresh tomatillos.

I also at one time worked in a Mexican restauraunt and our head chefs loved to make up new salsas all the time. At one time we had 6-8 different salsas of differing degrees of heat and flavor. I loved it. I am such a salsa lover!

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:53:16 GMT
Mike, the brands I mentioned earlier, Herdez for salsa verde, and La Costena for mexican green sauce, are not bad like they come out of the jar. Fix em up like BR says will make them even better. The fish sauce? I have not tried that yet. But, BR likes it!
Joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (BR)

Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:24:14 GMT
Mike... just buy whatever is available and doctor it up a bit with some finely diced onions, a squeeze of lime juice, minced garlic, maybe a little cilantro or anything that suits your taste. Personally I add a couple splashes of fish sauce but that's just me. You can puree some diced tomatoes or salsa or even a chipotle pepper. The sky is the limit.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (mikez629)

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:26:41 GMT
Are there any good green salsa's on the market worth trying-canned,jarred?

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (1bbqboy)

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:25:11 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by NYNM

What about the green sauce served in Spanish (Spain) restaurants? I believe the main ingredient is parsley....(oil, garlic, etc.)

Tell us about them. I've never eaten Spanish food.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (NYNM)

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:01:17 GMT
What about the green sauce served in Spanish (Spain) restaurants? I believe the main ingredient is parsley....(oil, garlic, etc.)

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (SeamusD)

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:06:03 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by bill voss

hi ya seamus, welcome! anyone who checks in on the green thread is a friend of mine

Thanks, Bill... I'm a recent convert to green sauces, and am enjoying trying different things that are new to me.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (1bbqboy)

Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:15:21 GMT
hi ya seamus, welcome! anyone who checks in on the green thread is a friend of mine

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (SeamusD)

Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:22:50 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmos

quote:

Originally posted by bill voss

Do you have chile verde back there? Pork cooked long and slow in a fantastic green sauce, usually served over or beside rice. W/ flour tortillas to wrap it up in.

We recently had a Mexican restaurant open in Cortland N.Y. that is not half bad, having lived in Chicago I have a pretty base to compare to. One thing they do very well is the chile verde, I agree its a great dish.

I can also finally get tomatillas at the grocery store to make my own salsa verde.

I'm betting that it's Garcia's since the post is from 2003... I lived near there at the time and that place is one of my favorites. We had one open up in the Syracuse area recently, but it didn't last long unfortunately. They make a killer tomatillo sauce that you have to ask for, nice and hot with lots of flavor.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:13:07 GMT
Wow, Thanks BR! Avaocados and sour cream... Legran said it was different! Sounds real good!
Joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (BR)

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:45:50 GMT
This what you're looking for?
ENJOY!

Ninfa’s Green Sauce

3 medium avocados
3 medium green tomatoes
4 fresh tomatillos
3 garlic cloves
3 sprigs fresh cilantro
2-3 jalapenos
1 1/2 cups sour cream
1/2 teaspoon salt, to taste

Peel avocados and place them in a blender.
In a medium saucepan, boil tomatoes, tomatillos, garlic, and jalapenos for 15 minutes.
Remove from saucepan and place all ingredients in a blender with avocados.
Add sour cream and blend until smooth.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:36:53 GMT
We used to have a Ninfas in Dallas Le but no more, not that I can find. You are soooo lucky! Keep working on the recipe. I bet they would tell you if you asked, maybe? And then you can tell us. We will keep it a secret!
Joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (Legran22)

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:06:23 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by wheregreggeats.com

One of my favorite green sauces has always been from Ninfa's in Houston:
http://www.recipezaar.com/34965
... it never disappoints.

The green salsa at Ninfa's on Navigation in Houston is quite different than the usual Salsa Verde (which can also be very good) found at other TexMex restaurants or like I make at home with roasted green chiles, tomatillos, lime juice, garlic and cilantro. It has something else in it that gives it a thicker texture and a unique taste. I used to think maybe it was a touch of sour cream, but I am not so certain. Anyway, its one of nature's little pleasures especially when teamed with a plate of Ninfa's soaked in milk overnight, twice cooked, carnitas platter and freshly made before your eyes' tortillas.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:59:52 GMT
Ok, I found my favorite brand of Salsa Verde... Herdez. Not that I dont't like almost all Salsa Verdes but this brand is the one I like best.

I still want to try the LaSabrozita Casera Verde though!
Joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:37:11 GMT
I went on a hunt and fund some stuff I like. It's La Costena Green Mexican Salsa medium. I also bought some Ranchera Salsa, same brand, red, looks good but I havn't tried it yet. LA Costena is also my favourite brand of pickled jalapenos.

I did not find the brand of salsa verde I like. It might be this same brand?
Joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:05:30 GMT
Ahh, we once had a Ninfa's in Dallas. I loved that place! That recipe sounds good.
Joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (wheregreggeats.com)

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:11:09 GMT
One of my favorite green sauces has always been from Ninfa's in Houston:
http://www.recipezaar.com/34965
... it never disappoints.

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (PapaJoe8)

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:41:16 GMT
Thanks Jim! I'll look for that. There is a brand of Salsa Verde I like but I am out and can't remember what it is. It comes in a bottle also.

I do not know of a Mexcan Green Sauce, sold in stores, that I like.
joe

RE: green sauces and salsas+chile verde (jimcor)

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:55:41 GMT
Wal*Mart's Neighborhood Market just opened near me, they sell a 36 ounce bottle of thick, pourable Salsa Casera Verde by LaSabrozita, for $2.68. Tomatillos and Jalapenos. Not bad... certainly can't complain about the price.