Asking For Tips

RE: Asking For Tips (jojobeans)

Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:38:42 GMT

Sorry about that! I know of a few girls that have made $39.00 for a 6 hour shift last week. They are very good. A word to the wise for servers that are looking to work in Florida. "If the sign says EARLY BIRD SPECIAL" Stay away!!!
Thank for clearing that up I was feeling sorry for you

RE: Asking For Tips (The Travelin Man)

Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:27:44 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by jojobeans

I don't know about you but $100.00 a day would not be even close to what I need to live, my insurance and mortgage is that much alone. They take a lot of guff and a lot of people squeak when they walk or are on fixed incomes here in florida, so to see only a dollar & change left OR less is not uncommon for a $12.00 ticket.

I guess I didn't make it clear enough when I put in bold letters that the $100+/night my ex made was FIFTEEN YEARS AGO. For five days of work per week, she brought into the house somewhere between $500 and $600 cash money. At the time, it was enough for her to drive a new car, pay the rent, and have all the essentials that she needed -- and, it was more than she could have made elsewhere, in the same number of hours, with the same flexibility of schedule (short of becoming a topless dancer, and, quite frankly, she didn't have assets to pull that off!). In my area of the country, there are a lot of professionals (administrative assistants, bookkeepers, etc.) who might still not take home over $500/week.

RE: Asking For Tips (jojobeans)

Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:14:34 GMT

I don't know about you but $100.00 a day would not be even close to what I need to live, my insurance and mortgage is that much alone. They take a lot of guff and a lot of people squeak when they walk or are on fixed incomes here in florida, so to see only a dollar & change left OR less is not uncommon for a $12.00 ticket.

RE: Asking For Tips (Copperhedzkettle)

Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:28:33 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by jojobeans

After reading all the posts I am in favor of putting a sign on the door, menu "NO TIPPING"! 15% has been added to your bill. “If you have a problem, see the management”. The person at the register should have a bull horn and announce "WE HAVE A CHEEP BA$TARD LEAVING THE BUILDING". If someone complains.

Bwa-hahahahahhahahahah

I will add this to the discussion. When I was a server I never asked if a customer needed change. However, when I returned to the table to collect the little tray and saw cash instead of a card I made it a point to ALWAYS say, "I will return shortly with your change".

Most of the time if the rest was meant for me they would tell me so and I could bid them a fond Adieu. Nothing worse than returning with change to find them gone and never having the chance to thank them. That was always worse for me than making an unnecessary trip back to the table.

Makes for a Win-Win situation!

Copper

RE: Asking For Tips (The Travelin Man)

Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:45:11 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by jojobeans

I don't like the "do you need change" bit myself but I know a lot of people that are servers. Trust me 90% of them don't make squat! Take an establisment that has to raise there prices due to sharp rent hikes, Suppliers charges. Most customers are miffed for a while and hold back the "TIP" remembe that servers only make a few dollars and hour and have a hard time getting the hours they need to get the amount of tips they need to stay off wellfare. Its a fact of life.

Why, when people want to make the argument that servers should be tipped more (or regardless of service) is the argument made that they "don't make squat"? Are we talking about charity for the underprivileged, or a gratuity for service?

If a server cannot make a living wage -- enough to stay off welfare -- then they are in the wrong line of work. Most servers that I know do a lot better than just avoid welfare. My ex made, on average, over $100/night, cash money, fifteen years ago at, of all places, a Bennigan's.

RE: Asking For Tips (jojobeans)

Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:57:00 GMT

After reading all the posts I am in favor of putting a sign on the door, menu "NO TIPPING"! 15% has been added to your bill. “If you have a problem, see the management”. The person at the register should have a bull horn and announce "WE HAVE A CHEEP BA$TARD LEAVING THE BUILDING". If someone complains.

RE: Asking For Tips (jojobeans)

Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:41:28 GMT

I don't like the "do you need change" bit myself but I know a lot of people that are servers. Trust me 90% of them don't make squat! Take an establisment that has to raise there prices due to sharp rent hikes, Suppliers charges. Most customers are miffed for a while and hold back the "TIP" remembe that servers only make a few dollars and hour and have a hard time getting the hours they need to get the amount of tips they need to stay off wellfare. Its a fact of life.

quote:
Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

RE- Auction Buyers Premium--
Here in the rural heartland, a few of the dealers have posted notices of Buyers premiums on their auctions...but the crowd at these events has been much smaller than at the usual auction. Buyers bitch about paying Sales Tax (especially since Ebay sales have soared) much less a fee for buying from a dealer. A couple of guys tried to charge a registration fee to obtain a bid number...This died a quick death also.

I am a believer in " a Tip is a reward for good service" and don't want to have that legislated into the general fee for whatever I have purchased.

RE: Asking For Tips (V960)

Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:30:30 GMT

Pacman,
Are you trying to bring common sense to this? I don't mind the question "do you need change?" when I have put down an amount which is within reason for being the tab plus a descent tip.

If I put down what you did then the waitstaff just cut their tip by 10% w/ such a stupid question. I've actually had the question asked to me when using a credit card...they expect me to give them the credit card?

Common sense needs to rule as in most situations on this earth.

RE: Asking For Tips (Burgerman1)

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:32:56 GMT

You know, it's pretty easy to tell when you are being played for a tip, there are some unique tell-tale signs.

1) Wife is ignored while husband will be referred to as honey, dear, sweetie or some other term of endearment.

2) The waitress gives you extra portions that you are never charged for.

3) Ahhh, the gentle touch of the hand to a shoulder.

4) And of course the one that we are discussing here, "Do you need change?" This is my particular favorite that I handle one of two ways...

1) Heck yes dear, give me my chane...my wife will take care of the tip! This works extremely well if you are in the company of your wife or other female...doesn't work with a group of guys or if you are dining alone.

2) If you are dining alone and asked "Do you need change," a good reply is "do you need a tip?" The shock will leave her flabargasted for a few seconds while you sort your coins and leave the correct tip.

BUT on the other side of this discussion, we have a family that comes into our restaurant, we affectionaly refer to them as the Adams Family. It's a mother and two teenage sons, the mother is fry short of an order and the two sons think they are God's gift to everyone one of our waitresses, doesn't matter if they are 16 or 61. While they are here they will run a waitress to death, constant refills, extra salad dressings, more this and that and expect to be entertained by the waitress at all times. I really have done my best to run them off, but they keep coming back like a bad dream. They'll easily run up a bill of $20 to $30...and never, never once has a tip been left.

RE: Asking For Tips (pacman)

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:41:12 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by MilwFoodlovers

Reading this thread got me thinking as to what my response will be the next time that happens to me. When asked if I "need change back" I plan on tilting my head, looking them directly in the eye and with my best quizzical look say "Well, certainly"! Perhaps the shock factor will give them pause so the next diner needn't suffer that rudeness.

Well Said!!!!!!!

RE: Asking For Tips (MilwFoodlovers)

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:52:46 GMT

Reading this thread got me thinking as to what my response will be the next time that happens to me. When asked if I "need change back" I plan on tilting my head, looking them directly in the eye and with my best quizzical look say "Well, certainly"! Perhaps the shock factor will give them pause so the next diner needn't suffer that rudeness.

RE: Asking For Tips (pacman)

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:22:25 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by risotteria

asking if you need change expedites service. one point of good service is to timly serve and service your tables.returning to a table with change to find the patrons have either left, or diden't want change to begin with is wasted time and energy for anyone involved in that transaction , including the patrons. If you feel that you have been put on the spot by the question do you need change, you are probably the customer who under tips and overstays. Review the check when presented and decide what to do, just like when you get a menu...Duh!

I have to agree with Porkbeaks, "DUH"....does NOT help make your point. Beside that, whatd does "Review the check when presented and decide what to do, just like when you get a menu" mean? Of course you Review the chek AND make a Decision. The issue is once you make the decision and give them the money they should NOT ask "Do you need change?". See my previous post earlier on this page, my check was $18 and I laid a $50 on the tray, why on earth would ANYONE ask "Do you need change?" Jeezzz, how may 178% tips do you expect in a day?

RE: Asking For Tips (porkbeaks)

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:46:04 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by risotteria

blah, blah,blah... If you feel that you have been put on the spot by the question do you need change, you are probably the customer who under tips and overstays. Review the check when presented and decide what to do, just like when you get a menu...Duh!

I really hate it when I hear or read the expression "Duh!". It's especially irritating when used following a statement of total crapola like that quoted above. pb

RE: Asking For Tips (risotteria)

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:54:49 GMT

asking if you need change expedites service. one point of good service is to timly serve and service your tables.returning to a table with change to find the patrons have either left, or diden't want change to begin with is wasted time and energy for anyone involved in that transaction , including the patrons. If you feel that you have been put on the spot by the question do you need change, you are probably the customer who under tips and overstays. Review the check when presented and decide what to do, just like when you get a menu...Duh!

RE: Asking For Tips (V960)

Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:49:36 GMT

Soup Nazi used to have a jar beside the register which if you made too much noise throwing the change into he would give you a dirty look...of course I never saw him do anything but give dirty looks so whatever.

RE: Asking For Tips (porkbeaks)

Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:53:03 GMT

I wonder if anyone ever tips the Soup Nazi. If they don't, I wonder if he refuses them service thereafter. If so, I wonder how he keeps track. Just wonderin', pb

RE: Asking For Tips (V960)

Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:59:02 GMT

My father said never leave just a penny because it gives them something to throw at you.

RE: Asking For Tips (Copperhedzkettle)

Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:45:10 GMT

quote:

Leaving NO tip would be insulting.

Naw, a penny left on the table would be insulting, if you left nuthin, wait staff might think you just "forgot".

quote:

10% might be substandard, but it sure beats getting stiffed.

If the food was hot and right when it got to the table the customer owes 10% to the staff, if it was not, as a customer and waitstaff, I would find out why, AND MAKE IT RIGHT!. Its not normally the wait staff and THEY doesn't deserve to be stiffed. :)

quote:
How are you going to treat "substandard" tippers in your new business enterprise? Some customers feel a tip isn't required when the owner is the waitstaff. Just wondering.

If they asked for anything extra....blah blah blah, and didn't clean up after themselves, they wouldn't be served again.
But you see, I can tell them to Kiss my A$$, its the glory of America.

Porkbeaks edited to say: if they acted in the way stated directly above and left a penny or nuthin, they wouldn't be served again, or at the very least be required to cough up a dang good "Tip for living". Copper
Copper

RE: Asking For Tips (Michael Hoffman)

Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:23:00 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by dreamzpainter

THE AUDACITY of some people is often beyond understanding, last night while watching tv, the phone rings, caller ID says its a new pizza shop I have yet to try. The young lady says "This is Amber at xyz pizza, we'e closing out our register and want to know if you want to add a tip on your credit card...." After a moment or 2 of startled silence I politely informed her she had the wrong number.. A few moments later theres a knock on the door... another young lady is holding a pizza, now I'm really confused (and TOTALLY sober)before I can say anything my daughter and her fiance pull in the driveway and my daughter calls out, "Is that our pizza?" They had called in the order on the way over! My confusion aside I couldn't believe the phone call.........

Years ago I used to kid my wife about how I really needed to get a cell phone so I could order apizza while driving home. I've had cell phones now for about ten years and I still haven't ordered while driving. I may just do it tonight.

RE: Asking For Tips (dreamzpainter)

Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:00:24 GMT

THE AUDACITY of some people is often beyond understanding, last night while watching tv, the phone rings, caller ID says its a new pizza shop I have yet to try. The young lady says "This is Amber at xyz pizza, we'e closing out our register and want to know if you want to add a tip on your credit card...." After a moment or 2 of startled silence I politely informed her she had the wrong number.. A few moments later theres a knock on the door... another young lady is holding a pizza, now I'm really confused (and TOTALLY sober)before I can say anything my daughter and her fiance pull in the driveway and my daughter calls out, "Is that our pizza?" They had called in the order on the way over! My confusion aside I couldn't believe the phone call.........

RE: Asking For Tips (pacman)

Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:39:41 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Greyghost

"Do you need change?"

The question never comes up with me, I include the tip when I pay the tab and simply say "you're all set" before they can ask. I think this makes for a more pleasant experience all around.

Greyghost,

I'm glad this works for you. For some reason it almost never works for me. It seems I rarely have the correct amount to do check + tip and be done with it. I would much prefer the waitstaff to say "I'll be right back with your change" which gives me the chance to say " ok " or " you're all set ". I absolutly HATE "do you need change?". I guess it wouldn't be so bad if they actually looked at what you handed them, but, most don't they just say the words automatically.

Case in point, a few weeks ago I ate at the local "diner" (a term I use sparingly for this place, but, that is another thread) My check was about $18. The only bills I had on me were (2) $50's, which dosen't normally happen, I laid the 50 on the tray with the check and the server came back and said ... you guessed it... "Do you need change?". Good Grief, a stupid da**ed question if ever there was one. She sure as HE** was not getting a $32 tip. As a matter of fact, based on the service, she would be lucky to get 15%.

As customers, we shouldn't need to worry about trying to make it more pleasant all around by being ready to have check + tip just to avoid needing change. Any place in the service business should automatically offer you your change and give you the chance to say "keep it" or not.

Dan

RE: Asking For Tips (V960)

Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:06:21 GMT

They don't put down 15%, shoot them in the head on the way out, unless your waitstaff are idiots (not an unknown occurance).

RE: Asking For Tips (Shirley U. Jest)

Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:00:19 GMT

Saw a jar next to a cash register at a Mama Fu's, and the jar read, "our cooks need gas money, please contribute."

RE: Asking For Tips (porkbeaks)

Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:49:13 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Caramel Copper

The idea of "asking for a tip" has never entered my mind. The customers who overtip far outweigh the cheap ba$tards. Everytime. 10% is substandard. I find it; (10%), insulting.

Copper

Leaving NO tip would be insulting. 10% might be substandard, but it sure beats getting stiffed. How are you going to treat "substandard" tippers in your new business enterprise? Some customers feel a tip isn't required when the owner is the waitstaff. Just wondering. pb

RE: Asking For Tips (Greyghost)

Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:46:18 GMT

"Do you need change?"

The question never comes up with me, I include the tip when I pay the tab and simply say "you're all set" before they can ask. I think this makes for a more pleasant experience all around.

RE: Asking For Tips (sho4go)

Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:49:01 GMT

I have watched a particular group of customers (profession) repeatedly leave our restuarant without tipping. Some of these people were our customers when I was the primary waitstaff and I guess that the notion was that, "the owner wasn't due tips" or "maybe the owner would be offended if I tipped", I'm not sure. But, when we hired enough staff that I was no longer on the floor as a server, this group continued their practice of "non-tipping". Now then, we serve on disposables, but we provide non-hosted (find your own table, somebody will be with you in just a sec)"full service". Orders are taken, refills are provided, food is delivered, desserts are offered and delivered. The bill is paid at a cash register on the way out. Now, why would someone think that a tip was not in order? Don't know, but when I placed the jar on the counter, some of these folks would ask, "what's the jar for?" My reply, "hey, some people leave a tip on the table and some folks need change. If you need change, you don't have to go back to the table, you can just leave it in the jar since we work on a tip pool basis." Now this "reminder" did nudge some of these folks into reality, that these servers need tips to survive, however, some remained oblivious. You can PM me if you like and I will tell you which profession I am talking about, but I don't want to disparage a whole group of people for the actions of a few unthinking folks in this small town.

Bill in East Texas

RE: Asking For Tips (Copperhedzkettle)

Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:01:16 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by bassrocker4u2

that is an awesome atitude to have, bob.

Isn't it Bassrocker?

Waytago, CCB!

Copper

RE: Asking For Tips (bassrocker4u2)

Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:02:19 GMT

that is an awesome atitude to have, bob.

RE: Asking For Tips (Freeloader)

Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:38:23 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Grillmeister

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RE: Asking For Tips (Freeloader)

Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:35:02 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Grillmeister

It's interesting to see what issues set off Roadfooders. Tipping seems to be a red state-blue state type of thing here. What we need is some levity! Check out the Bud Light "Real Men of Genius" series radio spots. Hilarious! My view on tipping is summed up with "Mr. Fancy Coffee Shop Coffee Pourer". Enjoy...

http://budlight.whipnet.com/Bud%20Light%20-%20Real%20Men%20of%20Genius%20-%20Mr.%20Fancy%20Coffee%20Shop%20Coffee%20Pourer.mp3

Funnier ones available on the main directory as well...