Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch

Re:Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:36:08 GMT

Would you like to share it?

Re:Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Duzypapuga)

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:06:52 GMT

I have the original Texas Hot Sauce from western New York Texas Hot in Wellsville

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (seafarer john)

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:08:16 GMT

Uncle George's in Kingston was taken over by Dallas Hot Wieners a few years ago. George's sauce is no longer - They now serve the Dallas Hot Wiener sauce. They were quite similar, but easy to tell apart.

Cheers, John

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Demira)

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 02:20:07 GMT

Hello Gene,

Please forgive me if this is a duplicate post. This is my second try.

I went to KHS in the 70s and enjoyed eating at Uncle George's on Broadway next to Jack-in-the-Box. Mike Andrews, a tall, nice man perhaps in his 30s with dark hair worked there. A previous post regarding Uncle George's history said his father, George, started the business in 1927. Many years ago I think I heard Mike moved out of state - Florida?

The last time I visited Kingston I ate a few hot weiners there. They were tasty, but didn't quite taste the way I remembered.

I am looking forward to trying TDJ's recipe. Thank you Mr. Jones!

Denise

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:41:04 GMT

I always avoid the title of expert because an expert is defined as a person who knows more and more about less and less.
I think that with absence, the memory of a favorite food is put on a "pedestal". I have had lunch in Port Jervis there periodically over the last 50 years and the Texas Lunch is fairly close all along - other than the hot dog brand change. I can't see where they would change their gold mine recipe except when ingredients are forced to change such as the hot dog brand as mentioned earlier. It's still Jimmy's family.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Foodbme)

Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:07:01 GMT

gmanbw

I haven't seen any negative reviews other than the posts on this string. I think it is amazing that the subject carries a string for over 5 years so far and represents alot of strong feelings about the subject.

That's because everyone on here is an Expert!

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:15:09 GMT

I haven't seen any negative reviews other than the posts on this string. I think it is amazing that the subject carries a string for over 5 years so far and represents alot of strong feelings about the subject.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Benzee)

Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:59:38 GMT

Hello all ,
I have not tried Texas Lunch in Port Jervis as I have heard less than glowing reviews from there , but I do host a TV show on local access Time warner a few blocks from there and if I can get over there early enough will give them a shout next week sometime
Benzee

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (parmm)

Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:49:25 GMT

Zilla

I read through a bit of this thread and this sounds like Michigan Sauce to me. A couple that I know live here in San Antonio and they make it as a hot dog topping. They are from upstate NY. Apparently nobody in Michigan knows anything about it.

"Michigan Hot Dogs" are popular in Montreal and Quebec. It's basically just a spaghetti meat sauce on the hot dog.
You can get them at most fast food places or diners north of the border. Try La Belle Province or Lafleurs. They also serve it as italian poutine

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (foglikecat)

Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:55:55 GMT

Hi,

I worked at the Jack-in-the Box next door (first job from 1970-1972), and hung out at Uncle George's allot...I wish I knew who was running the restaurant then....never had sauce like that sense!!!! (with sauerkraut) Do you know? I would like to find him...

gene

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Michaeljinva)

Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:15:13 GMT

I also grew up in Port Jervis, I have tried dozens of other restaurants hot dog sauces. The closest I have found is Johnnys Lunch in Jamestown NY. I recently visited Port Jervis, and visited the Texas Lunch. The place was nearly empty at lunch time on a weekday. They taste nothing like what they used too. I have very fond memorys of standing in long lines with my Mom down by the origial underpass location. I was fascinated by the way Jimmy would line the buns from his palm to his shouder and fix those delicious dogs.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Trask)

Sun, 05 Dec 2010 12:16:34 GMT

seafarer john

We really enjoyed your video and the sandwich looks great.
However, Newburgh is not all that far from Port Jervis and the sandwich is constructed differently in Newburgh: first the hot dog on a steamed bun, then the mustard, then the sauce, then a mere sprinkling of onions. I doubt it really makes much difference in the taste except that yours has a whole lot more onion, but, it all winds up the same way - all over your hands and chin and a warm feeling all over...

Cheers, John

Thanks John. I never had a Texas Weiner other than in PJ although there were quite a few joints around in neighboring towns. It is interesting to me to have you mention that the onions were used differently. I especially like the way they create a leaky bed for the sauce to seep through and also puddle on top.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (seafarer john)

Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:37:39 GMT

We really enjoyed your video and the sandwich looks great.
However, Newburgh is not all that far from Port Jervis and the sandwich is constructed differently in Newburgh: first the hot dog on a steamed bun, then the mustard, then the sauce, then a mere sprinkling of onions. I doubt it really makes much difference in the taste except that yours has a whole lot more onion, but, it all winds up the same way - all over your hands and chin and a warm feeling all over...

Cheers, John

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Trask)

Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:48:46 GMT

Here's a short video I just made to show the assembly & finished product of the Texas weiner we got from Texas Lunch in Port Jervis, NY. I frequented the place in the 60's when the Greek had it before it was moved about a half mile to the east.
Although the process shown here is laboriously slow (it took about ten seconds to get "two with the works" when the Greek did it) it shows the order and end result. I've always had the "how am I going to attack this thing?" feeling when the plate was set before me and never escaped without sauce on chin, fingers, etc.
I vary the sauce a bit each time I make some but as long as I get the right viscosity and adhere to the way the "Greek" put them together, I get a dog that I can't find out here in the PNW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szbmbctk-uU

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (tdj_tx)

Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:10:32 GMT

Ok, I've started a new thread titled "Experimental hotdog recipes".

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Zilla)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:41:56 GMT

I read through a bit of this thread and this sounds like Michigan Sauce to me. A couple that I know live here in San Antonio and they make it as a hot dog topping. They are from upstate NY. Apparently nobody in Michigan knows anything about it.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:44:42 GMT

tdj_tx

I think that if you left the vinegar out you would get something close to the Port Jervis sauce. Having never eaten the Port Jervis version I can't really say. Is there such a thing as a Buffalo Wing Dog?

My point was if Port Jervis version is close to Kingston version except for the vinegar. The biggest change was the reduction of paprika. Next was the inclusion of garlic powder, nutmeg, and parsley. At the time, I thought they were the same except for the vinegar.

Of course, I could always make a trip up and see for myself.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:52:03 GMT

Sounds good!

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (tdj_tx)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:46:54 GMT

Since we are getting way off the original topic, should I just start a new thread dedicated to hotdog experiments?

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (tdj_tx)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:45:23 GMT

Foodbme

Is there such a thing as a Buffalo Wing Dog?

There is if you make one using the recipe you outlined above!

I'll take that as a challenge! I'll work on that today and post some pics if it turns out to be any good.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:44:48 GMT

tdj_tx

Is there such a thing as a Buffalo Wing Dog?

Not that I know of. These are just inspirations. I get into flights of fancy and try these things --- and frequently flop.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Foodbme)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:39:44 GMT

Is there such a thing as a Buffalo Wing Dog?

There is if you make one using the recipe you outlined above!

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (tdj_tx)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:31:21 GMT

gmanbw

tdj_tx

gmanbw

I remember as a kid/teen in Port Jervis I would see that the Greek (and then Jimmy) would pick up hot dogs that were grilling a long time and inspect them. Periodically, they would throw them into a box next to the grill. Originally I thought it was just garbage, but now I suspect they were recycled.

For the flavor - carmelized fat is always good...think of bacon!

As I was reared in Port Jervis - Dallas Hot Weiner was new to me when I went there. The vinegar flavor struck with me. I originally thought it suggested a Buffalo wing.

There's a new name for you -- a Texalo Wing Dog!?!?

I made the sauce last week using the grilled hotdogs. It did change the flavor a bit, the cooked dogs had a more smokey flavor to them. I grilled them on a roller type grill, like the kind you see at a gas station. As for a Texalo Wing Dog, I would deep fry the dog and dip it in a mixture of Frank's hot sauce and butter and serve on a bun with crumbled blue cheese! I might have to try that! You could also deep fry a chicken sausage and dip it in sauce and serve the same way.

How do you think the spice mix compares (except for the vinegar)?

I think you describe a regular Buffalo Wing Dog perfectly. I thought you would need the Greek influence to call it "Texalo". Also possibly use tabasco instead of crushed red pepper flakes. But the Buffalo part sounds very good. I was last in the Anchor Bar in 1995.

I think that if you left the vinegar out you would get something close to the Port Jervis sauce. Having never eaten the Port Jervis version I can't really say. Is there such a thing as a Buffalo Wing Dog?

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:18:45 GMT

tdj_tx

gmanbw

I remember as a kid/teen in Port Jervis I would see that the Greek (and then Jimmy) would pick up hot dogs that were grilling a long time and inspect them. Periodically, they would throw them into a box next to the grill. Originally I thought it was just garbage, but now I suspect they were recycled.

For the flavor - carmelized fat is always good...think of bacon!

As I was reared in Port Jervis - Dallas Hot Weiner was new to me when I went there. The vinegar flavor struck with me. I originally thought it suggested a Buffalo wing.

There's a new name for you -- a Texalo Wing Dog!?!?

I made the sauce last week using the grilled hotdogs. It did change the flavor a bit, the cooked dogs had a more smokey flavor to them. I grilled them on a roller type grill, like the kind you see at a gas station. As for a Texalo Wing Dog, I would deep fry the dog and dip it in a mixture of Frank's hot sauce and butter and serve on a bun with crumbled blue cheese! I might have to try that! You could also deep fry a chicken sausage and dip it in sauce and serve the same way.

How do you think the spice mix compares (except for the vinegar)? I also use the AB Chili Powder routinely which gives the smoked paprika note to the sauce.

I think you describe a regular Buffalo Wing Dog perfectly. I thought you would need the Greek influence to call it "Texalo". Also possibly use Tabasco instead of crushed red pepper flakes because Tabasco is vinegar based where Franks is water and salt based. Anchor Bar uses both. But the Buffalo part sounds very good. I was last in the Anchor Bar in 1995.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (tdj_tx)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:47:55 GMT

gmanbw

I remember as a kid/teen in Port Jervis I would see that the Greek (and then Jimmy) would pick up hot dogs that were grilling a long time and inspect them. Periodically, they would throw them into a box next to the grill. Originally I thought it was just garbage, but now I suspect they were recycled.

For the flavor - carmelized fat is always good...think of bacon!

As I was reared in Port Jervis - Dallas Hot Weiner was new to me when I went there. The vinegar flavor struck with me. I originally thought it suggested a Buffalo wing.

There's a new name for you -- a Texalo Wing Dog!?!?

I made the sauce last week using the grilled hotdogs. It did change the flavor a bit, the cooked dogs had a more smokey flavor to them. I grilled them on a roller type grill, like the kind you see at a gas station. As for a Texalo Wing Dog, I would deep fry the dog and dip it in a mixture of Frank's hot sauce and butter and serve on a bun with crumbled blue cheese! I might have to try that! You could also deep fry a chicken sausage and dip it in sauce and serve the same way.

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (gmanbw)

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:31:24 GMT

tdj_tx

gmanbw

The original question in this string was regarding Texas Lunch in Port Jervis and the discussion gravitated to Kingston and the mid-Hudson in general. I give all credit to tdj_tx which has a sauce based on Kingston and Dallas Hot Wiener product. That is a great sauce and a good clone to Kingston or Newburgh.

I tried to recreate the Port Jervis version and I think I may have achieved that sauce as much as possible. There are a few variations and Idon't include vinegar in the Port Jervis version. Here is that recipe:
4 cups water
4 - 8 ounces grilled chopped hot dogs (preferably all beef)
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1 teaspoon kosher salt
3/4 teaspoon onion powder
3/4 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1/2 teaspoon dried parsley flakes
1/2 teaspoon paprika
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1/4 teaspoon thyme
2 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes (or to taste)
2 tablespoon corn starch mixed with a little water

Bring everything to a boil, except the cornstarch.
Let simmer for 30+ minutes
Bring back to a boil and add the cornstarch mixture slowly in stages, stirring constantly
Keep stirring for about 10 minutes or until the sauce lets your finger trace a line on the spoon.
Serve on your favorite hotdog, with brown mustard, diced onion, in a steamed hotdog bun.
Again, all credit to tdj_tx

Thanks gmanbw, do the grilled hotdogs change the flavor? That's interesting because I bet the original recipes called for left over dogs from the previous day. I think this thread gravitated to Kingston because there used to be a Texas Lunch there. I'll give your Port Jervis recipe a try!

I remember as a kid/teen in Port Jervis I would see that the Greek (and then Jimmy) would pick up hot dogs that were grilling a long time and inspect them. Periodically, they would throw them into a box next to the grill. Originally I thought it was just garbage, but now I suspect they were recycled.

For the flavor - carmelized fat is always good...think of bacon!

As I was reared in Port Jervis - Dallas Hot Weiner was new to me when I went there. The vinegar flavor struck with me. I originally thought it suggested a Buffalo wing.

There's a new name for you -- a Texalo Wing Dog!?!?

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (Foodbme)

Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:00:02 GMT

tdj_tx

gmanbw

The original question in this string was regarding Texas Lunch in Port Jervis and the discussion gravitated to Kingston and the mid-Hudson in general. I give all credit to tdj_tx which has a sauce based on Kingston and Dallas Hot Wiener product. That is a great sauce and a good clone to Kingston or Newburgh.

I tried to recreate the Port Jervis version and I think I may have achieved that sauce as much as possible. There are a few variations and Idon't include vinegar in the Port Jervis version. Here is that recipe:
4 cups water
4 - 8 ounces grilled chopped hot dogs (preferably all beef)
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1 teaspoon kosher salt
3/4 teaspoon onion powder
3/4 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1/2 teaspoon dried parsley flakes
1/2 teaspoon paprika
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1/4 teaspoon thyme
2 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes (or to taste)
2 tablespoon corn starch mixed with a little water

Bring everything to a boil, except the cornstarch.
Let simmer for 30+ minutes
Bring back to a boil and add the cornstarch mixture slowly in stages, stirring constantly
Keep stirring for about 10 minutes or until the sauce lets your finger trace a line on the spoon.
Serve on your favorite hotdog, with brown mustard, diced onion, in a steamed hotdog bun.
Again, all credit to tdj_tx

Thanks gmanbw, do the grilled hotdogs change the flavor? That's interesting because I bet the original recipes called for left over dogs from the previous day. I think this thread gravitated to Kingston because there used to be a Texas Lunch there. I'll give your Port Jervis recipe a try!

Having tried a bunch of recipes, I like tdj_tx's the best but the grilled dog idea makes sense. If tdj_tx is gonna try it, so am I. He's my Hot Dog Sauce Idol!

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (tdj_tx)

Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:49:11 GMT

gmanbw

The original question in this string was regarding Texas Lunch in Port Jervis and the discussion gravitated to Kingston and the mid-Hudson in general. I give all credit to tdj_tx which has a sauce based on Kingston and Dallas Hot Wiener product. That is a great sauce and a good clone to Kingston or Newburgh.

I tried to recreate the Port Jervis version and I think I may have achieved that sauce as much as possible. There are a few variations and Idon't include vinegar in the Port Jervis version. Here is that recipe:
4 cups water
4 - 8 ounces grilled chopped hot dogs (preferably all beef)
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1 teaspoon kosher salt
3/4 teaspoon onion powder
3/4 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1/2 teaspoon dried parsley flakes
1/2 teaspoon paprika
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1/4 teaspoon thyme
2 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes (or to taste)
2 tablespoon corn starch mixed with a little water

Bring everything to a boil, except the cornstarch.
Let simmer for 30+ minutes
Bring back to a boil and add the cornstarch mixture slowly in stages, stirring constantly
Keep stirring for about 10 minutes or until the sauce lets your finger trace a line on the spoon.
Serve on your favorite hotdog, with brown mustard, diced onion, in a steamed hotdog bun.
Again, all credit to tdj_tx

Thanks gmanbw, do the grilled hotdogs change the flavor? That's interesting because I bet the original recipes called for left over dogs from the previous day. I think this thread gravitated to Kingston because there used to be a Texas Lunch there. I'll give your Port Jervis recipe a try!

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (seafarer john)

Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:40:46 GMT

Majish: Where's your roadside stand, and what days and hours are you open? I'd like to stop by and try your hot dogs sometime when I'm in the Palenville area. I think we'll be going up to Purling sometime soon for German food.

Cheers, John

RE: Hot Dog Sauce recipe from Texas Lunch (majish32)

Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:50:23 GMT

I grew up in kingston NY and im 60 years old and i worked at Uncle Georges Hotdog Shop on Broad Way kingston NY.The history of Uncle Georges Owned by George Andrews started in 1927.2 Brothers Opened dallas Hot weiners Shop Uptown Kingston.Several Years Later George Andrews Broke partnership with his Brother and Opened Uncle georges Hot weiners shop on Broad Way kingston NY.George Andrews Created his own sauce and lead people of ulster county to beleive this was a secret sauce many people try to duplicate this sauce it went on for about 50 Years of this Secretcy.George Andrews Retired and left his store to his son.His son got tired in the buisness and sold it to George Andrews Brother But,He did not give his Brother the recipie.I helped clean up the Place before it was sold and in the corner top of a closet was a yellow peace of paper with George Andrews Hand writing and the real original recipie is now in hands of me.I have a small road side stand and i create the same recipie with 1 or 2 changes for legal reasons.I will not Reveal this recipie But i will send samples of this sauce for a small fee.There are many different things he did as a Family man to create this sauce.And im sure the new Generation of dallas would love to get this recipie.