Knishes

RE: Knishes (stricken_detective)

Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:05:31 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by annpeeples

Hi, stricken-have had them in many Jewish homes over the years,but have not seen them commercially sold in and around the Milwaukee area.Hope I am wrong and someone will steer me to a place, but havent seen them, either.Milw.foodlover????????Pipe in here...

We have a temple out here in Waukesha & the grocery store across the street from them used to have a little section of foods that were pareve, but they have since closed.

Maybe the northside? Mequon? Benji's doesn't have them?

RE: Knishes (ann peeples)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:39:52 GMT

Twinwillow-same site, but great recipes!!!!

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:34:14 GMT

More "knish culture"............

http://www.jewishrecipes.org/jewish-foods/knish.html

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:30:29 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by sizz

quote:
Originally posted by Twinwillow

Sorry, sizz. but, with all due respect, that (fast food) knish is a modern adaptation of the original style knish (from the old country) that I described above and were made by my late, Russian-Jewish born grandmother.
There is no comparison in taste and texture. But, your right about, potato. They were my favorite too!

sorry Twinwillow............ with all due respect, what you described above and your Babushka would confirmed is a Russian "piroshki"

Yes, in Russian, a "piroshki". In Jewish, a "knish".

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:27:24 GMT

These are the kind of knishes I'm talking about
http://roadfood.com/Insider/photos/5864.jpg

RE: Knishes (ann peeples)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:24:50 GMT

Well, twinwillow, I for one, will try the recipe site you provided.The liver knish recipe looks fantastic.I know where to get good chopped liver.,..Thanks!!!

RE: Knishes (sizz)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:07:22 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Twinwillow

Sorry, sizz. but, with all due respect, that (fast food) knish is a modern adaptation of the original style knish (from the old country) that I described above and were made by my late, Russian-Jewish born grandmother.
There is no comparison in taste and texture. But, your right about, potato. They were my favorite too!

sorry Twinwillow............ with all due respect, what you described above and your Babushka would confirmed is a Russian "piroshki"

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:52:17 GMT

Sorry, sizz. but, with all due respect, that (fast food) knish is a modern adaptation of the original style knish (from the old country) that I described above and were made by my late, Russian-Jewish born grandmother.
There is no comparison in taste and texture. But, your right about, potato. They were my favorite too!

RE: Knishes (leethebard)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:49:09 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by sizz

quote:
Originally posted by Twinwillow

Kinda like an, egg washed pastry pie crust with various fillings such as, potato with onions, kasha, (buckwheat groats) or, chopped liver. usually about the size of a "fist". Always, baked. Not fried.

My knish ......is always fried never baked, always square never round, always potato/onion, and nutten else......... and they look like this

That looks like a classic!!! Beautiful...nice job...I'm one Italian that loves a knish!!!

RE: Knishes (sizz)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:43:35 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Twinwillow

Kinda like an, egg washed pastry pie crust with various fillings such as, potato with onions, kasha, (buckwheat groats) or, chopped liver. usually about the size of a "fist". Always, baked. Not fried.

My knish ......is always fried never baked, always square never round, always potato/onion, and nutten else......... and they look like this

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:45:03 GMT

Good site for the, "knish curious"

http://www.jewishrecipes.org/recipes/knish/index.html

RE: Knishes (ann peeples)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:30:43 GMT

Hi, stricken-have had them in many Jewish homes over the years,but have not seen them commercially sold in and around the Milwaukee area.Hope I am wrong and someone will steer me to a place, but havent seen them, either.Milw.foodlover????????Pipe in here...

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:30:36 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Lexi

I am enjoying a kasha knish right now...for breakfast!

Way to go............

RE: Knishes (Lexi)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:23:34 GMT

I am enjoying a kasha knish right now...for breakfast!

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:12:47 GMT

Kinda like an, egg washed pastry pie crust with various fillings such as, potato with onions, kasha, (buckwheat groats) or, chopped liver. usually about the size of a "fist". Always, baked. Not fried.

RE: Knishes (stricken_detective)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:43:32 GMT

^^So kind of like a pasty? Pie crust with meat & potato & onion inside?

ETA ok the video made perfect sense, thank you for that. They look good, but I've never seen them around here.

RE: Knishes (leethebard)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:03:42 GMT

here is a link ...at least about Square knishes...no, nothing like a pierogi or ravioli,at all.
http://www.gabilas.com/
http://video.about.com/kosherfood/Potato-Knish-Recipe.htm
There more like a crispy potato and onion pie...Here is a video showing how to make one...they're not exactly like a cohen;s knish...but they are true knishes..take a look.

RE: Knishes (stricken_detective)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:32:24 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by leethebard

Living here in the New York/New Jersey corridor, we get so much great food of the world!
A favorite of this Italian is the not-so-Italian Knish--that Jewish Potato delight...sold evrywhere, even at Yankee Stadium.
My question: On the roadways of America,how often do you come in cntact with this great treat? How many of you have NEVER had one. Just curious.

I read the whole thread, what is the difference btw this & a pierogie? I know Pierogi are either pan fried or boiled? And the dough, to me, is similar to ravioli dough?

Is a knish more like a calzone? Baked, not boiled?

I've never had one, as you can tell.

RE: Knishes (leethebard)

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:42:27 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by wanderingjew

quote:
Originally posted by leethebard

I think the first knish I had as a kid was ages ago at Yankee Stadium..not typical ballpark food!!!

Growing up on Long Island, I not only thought of Knishes as typical ballpark food, I thought of it as typical food- i thought evereyone ate it everywhere and was shocked to find it it wasn't when I grew older (similar to those who throught breaded pork tenderloins were everywhere as opposed to being basically confined to 3 states)

Yes,I think Yankee stadium served the round Cohen's...delicious!!!

RE: Knishes (Twinwillow)

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:49:39 GMT

Home made, (round, baked style) filled with with mashed potato, chicken fat and onions. Now, that's Jewish comfort food! As far as I know, Yonah Shimmel may be the last place on earth to get them.

RE: Knishes (wanderingjew)

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:34:53 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by leethebard

I think the first knish I had as a kid was ages ago at Yankee Stadium..not typical ballpark food!!!

Growing up on Long Island, I not only thought of Knishes as typical ballpark food, I thought of it as typical food- i thought evereyone ate it everywhere and was shocked to find it it wasn't when I grew older (similar to those who throught breaded pork tenderloins were everywhere as opposed to being basically confined to 3 states)

RE: Knishes (leethebard)

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:21:41 GMT

I think the first knish I had as a kid was ages ago at Yankee Stadium..not typical ballpark food!!!

RE: Knishes (NYNM)

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:00:41 GMT

I remember knishes well. "Knish men" used to walk around the beach (Brighton, Manhattan, Coney Island)in white undershirts and carrying huge brown shopping bags selling them while you sat on your blanket:

"Getcha cold drinks! Hot knishes heeyah"

RE: Knishes (leethebard)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:50:31 GMT

Thanks for the info...and welcome to roadfood...Enjoy the ride!!!

RE: Knishes (Druu)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:14:44 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by exsquidao

What's the diffrence between a knish and a pierogie?

Make your own if you can't find them in your town. I used get the most delicous flaky and light knishes on Miami Beach before it became trendy South Beach. They were baked with a saffron egg wash. Just makes my mouth water remembering them. I now live out in the west and all you can get if you find them is potato or meat. The stuff in the freezer section and those square fried things are not real knishes.

I found a great knish dough recipe on line that calls for sour cream. This is the best that I've found so far.

For a great kasha knish (not kosher by any means) cook the kasha beef broth with sauted shallots or sweet onions. Then add a little mashed potato to hold the filling together and for some added texture.

I usually make knishes with leftover mash potatoes from a roast with gravy, and I make the mashed potaoes made with butter, chive creamcheese, roasted garlic, salt, pepper and nutmeg and sauted onions or shallots (this mashed potato filling is great on it's own for a knish filling).

If the mixture is too dry I recommend adding a little brown gravy or pork gravy (gives it nice sweetness to the filling) if you have it.

RE: Knishes (sizz)

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:44:04 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by BT

quote:
Originally posted by sizz

Great pictures BT, suitable for framing.................... very colorful street scene, is it your's?

No. I've been there but didn't take a pic. The photo you like came from Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz/yonah-schimmels-knishes-bakery-new-york

then good cuz as you can see I took out the cab and bicycle and added the old man sweeping the sidewalk ................. a little artistic liberty ......... I hope whomever that pic belongs to
likes what I did. .......................lol

RE: Knishes (BT)

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:01:00 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by sizz

Great pictures BT, suitable for framing.................... very colorful street scene, is it your's?

No. I've been there but didn't take a pic. The photo you like came from Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz/yonah-schimmels-knishes-bakery-new-york

RE: Knishes (sizz)

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:47:07 GMT

Great pictures BT, suitable for framing.................... very colorful street scene, is it your's?
also good to see you here again......... Frank C

RE: Knishes (BuddyRoadhouse)

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:23:47 GMT

BT, thanks so much of the photos of Yonah Shimmel's bakery. I love my hometown of Chicago, and I'll put up our culinary scene against any other city in the world for high quality and grand diversity, but we ain't got nuthin' like Yonah Shimmel's here. Props to our New York Roadfood brethren. It just goes to show, no matter how good you got it where you are, there's always someone somewhere who's got something you ain't.

Buddy

RE: Knishes (ScreenBear)

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:04:52 GMT

Where Goest the Knish?

We all have our Proustian memories of the great foods that were part and parcel of our youth. Some have survived and are every bit as good as they originally were, and, alas, some have not.

Sadly, of all the great old staples of bygone days, favorites from all ethnic groups, the knish has suffered most in the bumpy, misinterpreted transition to modern times. In fact, there are things being called knishes that have not even an iota of similarity to what was called a knish, say, 40 years ago.

At the zenith of its gastronomic glory in the middle of the 20th Century, the knish, as served at those two great bastions of Knishdom (Cohen's Knishes, Newark, N.J., and Gershberg's Kosher Caterers, Philadelphia, Pa.) it was not quite an orb, but more beanbag/sandbag in shape, about the diameter of a medium-sized dinner roll. Basic fillings were potato, kasha and chopped liver. If you couldn't decide which kind to have, your best bet was to have all three.

I echo Mr. Hoffman in noting that the crust was flaky, and add that said exterior shell in its better permutations was almost croissant-like, its fallen flakes practically translucent, with ever so slight touches of burn here and there.

Just a guess, but I think these latter day, square patty things of doorstop consistency now being called knishes are easy to manufacture (to say cook would be too charitable), simple to warm-up and have a more profitable shelf life than the real McCoy.

The Bear