philly cheese steak

RE: philly cheese steak (leethebard)

Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:08:36 GMT

You're right,fattybomatty...and I love yellow American cheese melted on the chopped up steak...the teenagers around here like The Cheese Wiz...but we'll use both!!!

RE: philly cheese steak (fattybomatty)

Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:51:09 GMT

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Originally posted by leethebard

Ya know,we only buy a jar of cheese wiz when we make cheese steaks,,,kids like it mixed in with the rib eye steak sandwich steaks we get at Costco. No other cheese seems to work as well!

Lee...american cheese melts well enough on a cheese steak to give it the whiz effect. I prefer land O'lakes white american

RE: philly cheese steak (cavandre)

Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:47:48 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Holly Moore

In Philadelphia a cheesesteak is called a cheesesteak. When attempts are referred to as a Philly cheesesteak or Philadelphia Style cheesesteak, it is time to consider ordering a hamburger.

Just wanted to add, that as someone that is not a native of that city, when I use the term "Philly Cheesesteak" is a sign of respect. To me, it means that the cook is trying to prepare the sandwich in the traditional way & hopes it would be worthy of being served in that fair city. It also means that they are not adding anything like porcinis or brie to make a personal version. I have nothing against them doing this, it just wouldn't be a "Philly Cheesesteak" to me.

RE: philly cheese steak (leethebard)

Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:29:24 GMT

Ya know,we only buy a jar of cheese wiz when we make cheese steaks,,,kids like it mixed in with the rib eye steak sandwich steaks we get at Costco. No other cheese seems to work as well!

RE: philly cheese steak (cavandre)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:00:07 GMT

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Originally posted by fattybomatty

It's funny Wartoad because I HATE cheese whiz except on a cheese steak. I don't know what it is about the whiz on the steak with the ketchup, but it just works.

I'm also not a fan of Whiz, but it does work on this sandwich. For all of us of a certain age, do you remember when celery stalks, filled with Cheez Whiz & dusted with paprika were a stable of the relish tray sevred before every Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc., dinner? Might have to buy a jar of Whiz just to see it they still taste as good as I remember.

RE: philly cheese steak (Baah Ben)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:14:51 GMT

Thanks again....I'm printing this. Next time we're on our way to or on the way back from South Florida, we'll stop.

RE: philly cheese steak (cavandre)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:00:37 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Baah Ben

Cavandre - I will stop, have a slice at Bizzarro's and then a sandwich at Little Philly's..Thanks!! Do they make Chicken Philly's, too? Always looking out for my wife. I am going to see if there's info on the Internet on this. Thanks again!!

He makes a couple of other sandwichs & I'm pretty sure that one of them was chicken. I was completely fixated on the Cheesesteak, so I didn't spend a lot of time looking at the rest of the menu. I tried Google, but the place is so new that I didn't even get a phone book listing as of about a week ago. Go over the Pineda Causeway (Rt. 404)until you reach A1A, hang a right (south) & it's about 100 yds. up on your right.

RE: philly cheese steak (Baah Ben)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:32:06 GMT

Actually, there's a new French bakery that I reported on 6 months ago. I'm sorry I no longer remember the name, but it is on Biscayne and around 143rd? On the east side of the street. It is in a new Publix shopping center and it is someone's French name..Just one word. They have pretty good baked items. Maybe it's called "Frrunk" just kidding(Father of the Bride )...Actually it might be called Jean? Oh, anyway, you are not going up to my old hometown (Aventura) anyway. But, you are coming up this fall to the Brickyard right?

John A, Ellen, myself and hopefully a whole group of roadfoodies are counting on meeting you! I don't know where we are all going to sit in this tiny restaurant, but we'll figure it out

Cavandre - I will stop, have a slice at Bizzarro's and then a sandwich at Little Philly's..Thanks!! Do they make Chicken Philly's, too? Always looking out for my wife. I am going to see if there's info on the Internet on this. Thanks again!!

RE: philly cheese steak (MiamiDon)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:39:13 GMT

Baah Ben - Yeah, I can get some decent artisanal bread around this end of the county, but a proper hoagie roll, or a kaiser-roll/hard-roll is hard to find. There is a bakery nearby that used to have excellent baguettes, but the original owners sold it, and the new ones don't do a good job. I figured that there would be some places up in Aventura. I have never bought bread there, but I suspect that Lorenzo's in North Miami Beach might have some. It's just that a 70 mile round trip for a sub roll is a bit much on my typical Saturday! It probably would be about 2-1/2 hours.

RE: philly cheese steak (cavandre)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:21:44 GMT

Baah Ben...Little Phillies (mentioned earlier in this thread) is less than 15 minutes from that place you stop for pizza off Exit 191 of I-95.

RE: philly cheese steak (Baah Ben)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:04:09 GMT

Thanks John..I was just wondering about that roll. I said to myself, where else could he have gotten a decent bread...Hey, you caught Publix on one of their good baking days. Or, could it just be your excellent camera work

Miami Don - Yeah, even in So Florida, we had a a hell of a time getting a decent bread. But, we always did with a little driving. The Reinessance (I've butchered the spelling) on around 129th and Biscayne had great artisan breads! There is also an incredible place called Croissant Time in Ft. Lauderdale. You have got to go to this place for breakfast! It's is absolutely wonderful! Have coffee (they ahve tables and chairs) with a great chocolate, rasperry or almond croissant. Their bakery goods are amazing! Take home some loaves of fantastic French bread and make your cheesesteaks

Then, there's my favorite Jewish bakery..Family Bakery on 44th and University in Ft. Lauderdale. But, I know all are a haul for you. So, why not the Epicure's bakery for a good loaf of bread for a cheesesteak? Incidently, Epicure use to be wonderful, but it is not as good as either place I jsut mentioned to you.

RE: philly cheese steak (fattybomatty)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:59:27 GMT

It's funny Wartoad because I HATE cheese whiz except on a cheese steak. I don't know what it is about the whiz on the steak with the ketchup, but it just works. I like provolone and american cheese on my cheese steaks as well. All depends on my mood and where I'm eating the steak at.

There's this place in Gloucester City, NJ right across the river from Philly that makes the best Cheese steak stromboli. It's called Sal's and Pat's. Every time I am down that way I make sure to get one.

RE: philly cheese steak (WarToad)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:54:48 GMT

fattybomatty - I agree. Put a little grilled onion and pepper on there. 'Shrooms too would be great.

Personally, I never touch fake cheese (whiz), life's too short for imitations. Put something real on there.

RE: philly cheese steak (wanderingjew)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:50:54 GMT

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Originally posted by CheeseWit

quote:
Originally posted by wanderingjew

quote:
Originally posted by cavandre

I assume peppers & mushrooms are not allowed?

Absolutely,

Neither are boiled or semi raw onions which it seems a good portion of the country seems to prefer.

Dale: I do get Mushroom Cheesesteaks. They're not as rare as you might think. And, just about every shop offers fried or raw onions. Purists might not go for Mushroom Cheesesteaks or raw onions, but both are offered everywhere.

I know, I was thinking from the "purist perspective"
Unfortunately in many parts of the country, it seems they don't know how to fry onions, so you either get semi raw or boiled onions.

RE: philly cheese steak (fattybomatty)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:49:33 GMT

I don't see why a certain item wouldn't be allowed on a cheese steak if that's what you like to eat.

RE: philly cheese steak (CheeseWit)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:45:58 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by wanderingjew

quote:
Originally posted by cavandre

I assume peppers & mushrooms are not allowed?

Absolutely,

Neither are boiled or semi raw onions which it seems a good portion of the country seems to prefer.

Dale: I do get Mushroom Cheesesteaks. They're not as rare as you might think. And, just about every shop offers fried or raw onions. Purists might not go for Mushroom Cheesesteaks or raw onions, but both are offered everywhere.

RE: philly cheese steak (wanderingjew)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:09:49 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by cavandre

I assume peppers & mushrooms are not allowed?

Absolutely,

Neither are boiled or semi raw onions which it seems a good portion of the country seems to prefer.

RE: philly cheese steak (John A)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:58:40 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Baah Ben

John..Where did you get the bread? Doesn't look like a Publix hogie unless you got lucky and got one of their well done rolls? Where are the fries Bro?

Hey, have you been to Famous Philly's in Port Orange? What do you think of it. They ahve this lunch special for like $6.95 with a soda and the sandwich is their "half" and it is huge!

You da man...Love your cooking photos! Hope all is well with you.

Hey BB. I've heard a lot of good things about Famous Philly but have not been there. With my appetite I would need a couple of people to help me eat one of their cheesesteaks.

The roll is from Publix, I pop them into the oven for a minute before putting the sandwich together and again to melt the cheese, they get a nice crust that way.

RE: philly cheese steak (MiamiDon)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:36:16 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by Baah Ben

John..Where did you get the bread? Doesn't look like a Publix hogie unless you got lucky and got one of their well done rolls?

Baah Ben, that's what I immediately zeroed in on. The hoagie rolls around here that I have been able to find are insipid.

RE: philly cheese steak (TJ Jackson)

Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:40:18 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by cavandre

But even in Philly, isn't there some disagreement over what's a Cheesesteak? Some prefer sliced meat, while others prefer the diced version. Then there's the question of which cheese to use? I assume peppers & mushrooms are not allowed? I await the responses of the Philly natives.

In addition to what Holly said, there are some bread differences as well, such as the thinner roll used at Steves (My fave, albeit I've only ever been to 4 legit cheesesteak joints) versus the larger, fluffier roll at many other joints

RE: philly cheese steak (Twinwillow)

Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:25:14 GMT

quote:
Originally posted by John A

It's not from Pat's in Philly but my family loves my ribeye cheesesteaks.

And, probably better than, Pat's.

RE: philly cheese steak (Baah Ben)

Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:59:09 GMT

John..Where did you get the bread? Doesn't look like a Publix hogie unless you got lucky and got one of their well done rolls? Where are the fries Bro?

Hey, have you been to Famous Philly's in Port Orange? What do you think of it. They ahve this lunch special for like $6.95 with a soda and the sandwich is their "half" and it is huge!

You da man...Love your cooking photos! Hope all is well with you.

RE: philly cheese steak (cavandre)

Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:51:26 GMT

Looks very good...are you open for business?

RE: philly cheese steak (John A)

Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:46:54 GMT

It's not from Pat's in Philly but my family loves my ribeye cheesesteaks.

RE: philly cheese steak (Holly Moore)

Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:53:00 GMT

Sliced vs chopped is generally regional. Most South Philadelphia cheesesteaks are sliced, Ridge Avenue area cheesesteaks are chopped. Of course there are variations due to the invention of motorized transport and the resultant intermingling of neighborhoods.

Sliced provolone was the original cheese for cheesesteaks. But as South Philadelphians came to understand that a cheesesteak's raison d'etre is grease, their preferences evolved from cheese to cheez. Cheez Whiz is now the preferred choice. It is impossible to properly order a cheesesteak - "whiz with" - and end up with provolone.

Peppers and mushrooms are available for tourists and Craig LaBan.

RE: philly cheese steak (cavandre)

Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:49:58 GMT

But even in Philly, isn't there some disagreement over what's a Cheesesteak? Some prefer sliced meat, while others prefer the diced version. Then there's the question of which cheese to use? I assume peppers & mushrooms are not allowed? I await the responses of the Philly natives.

RE: philly cheese steak (CheeseWit)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:01:39 GMT

Thanks Holly. I was holding off on making that distinction only because I've made it so many times over the years on this and other sites.

RE: philly cheese steak (Holly Moore)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:25:12 GMT

In Philadelphia a cheesesteak is called a cheesesteak. When attempts are referred to as a Philly cheesesteak or Philadelphia Style cheesesteak, it is time to consider ordering a hamburger.

RE: philly cheese steak (Baah Ben)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:09:51 GMT

Famous Philly's here in Port Orange, FL makes a very interesting version. They chop up the meat, onions and peppers on the griddle and mix in the cheese..So, it's almost like a paste? You don't see the cheese, but you can clearly taste it. It comes out steaming hot..So hot you cannot eat it right away. But, it does taste pretty good. Is it a true Philly cheesesteak? I wouldn't know...Never been to Philly in all the years I lived in NY/NJ

RE: philly cheese steak (leethebard)

Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:00:59 GMT

Well.. the best Eskimo Pie I ever had was in Philly!!