Concession Trailer Build with intro

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:29:04 GMT

Chef JR

Thanks for the nice details. I was wondering how you install the window and the door to cover it. How do you trim it to prevent leaking. I have been looking for alumimun extrusions to use but I have not found any.

The place I used for my aluminum extrusions was speedymetals.com and my sheeting was from a local sheet metal shop.
You will have to figure how thick your plywood/aluminum/frp 'sandwich' will be to determine the channel dimensions for your aluminum. I think I explained this process a littler earlier in the thread. I don't have time to go through it right now. Pretty busy right now.

the window was mounted with it's own flange with the flange on the inside of the trailer. The awning window was mounted with a piano hinge on the top with gas shocks mounted to the inside window jam and on the awning. This has worked very good so far and I have had 0 issues as of yet. I do around 14 events annually and have been in rain and wind as well and everything works good. As far as leaking, you'lll want to use high grade 100% silicone and use it liberally but neatly. Put it in the channel before you slide the channel over your 'sandwich' and also use it on all seams and edges where water could penetrate. If you have an unsteady hand and cant get good even caulk lines use masking tape where you want a nice cosmetic appearance.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (Chef JR)

Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:40:04 GMT

Thanks for the nice details. I was wondering how you install the window and the door to cover it. How do you trim it to prevent leaking. I have been looking for alumimun extrusions to use but I have not found any.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 28 May 2013 10:27:44 GMT

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 28 May 2013 10:26:43 GMT

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 28 May 2013 10:16:35 GMT

Dgaviolac

where did you get the stuff that goes over the wires for the lights on the ceiling

Your asking about the conduit I used. It's called wiremold and I got it from Menards. I would imagine they sell it at Homedepot and Lowes as well. It's in the electrical section. Wire mold can also be used for 120 volt wiring as well. Gives it a better look than running 1/2 round metallic conduit on the surface of walls and ceilings in my opinion. You can also get the light switch boxes that match the wiremold conduit as well.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 28 May 2013 10:12:30 GMT

BelCibo

That looks fantastic!

Thank you very much!

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 28 May 2013 10:10:49 GMT

Revel

Nice build, impressive craftsmanship...

Thank you!

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 28 May 2013 10:10:15 GMT

DWags541

Dope!

Thanks! We like it alot. I'm gonna post pics of the ice cream truck as well. Came out awesome. 3 days out selling ice cream so far this year in the ice cream truck and business has increased about 700% so far. (partly because of the louder speaker I got for the music box) Hopefully it stays that way all season long! Do not under estimate the appearance of your rig!

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (Dgaviolac)

Fri, 24 May 2013 11:33:58 GMT

where did you get the stuff that goes over the wires for the lights on the ceiling

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (Revel)

Fri, 24 May 2013 08:58:56 GMT

Nice build, impressive craftsmanship...

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (BelCibo)

Fri, 24 May 2013 07:49:18 GMT

That looks fantastic!

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (sunpialia)

Fri, 24 May 2013 05:24:04 GMT

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Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (DWags541)

Fri, 17 May 2013 03:16:34 GMT

Dope!

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 14 May 2013 14:32:39 GMT

more pics at:
http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/kingofcreams/library/#/user/kingofcreams/library/?sort=3&page=1&_suid=13685554893430943723305841925

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 14 May 2013 14:26:49 GMT

Not sure why it keeps not posting my post but there were more pics of the trailer. The whole thing got wrapped including the front.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Tue, 14 May 2013 14:16:38 GMT

I wanted to give you guys an update on what my trailer currently looks like after the wrap was installed! Can't believe how great it turned out.

Theres a glimse of our ice cream cart in lower left corner.

Our ice cream truck will be done tomorrow so I'll post pics of that as well once I get them.

Thanks for looking

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Wed, 08 May 2013 09:48:59 GMT

yorkgym1

I learned so much from your thread .. thanks for all the time you took to post pics and info details like the caulk used , prima supply..( that is the exact sink I was looking at t btw) southco latch...
Tony

Tony,
That's why I posted, is to help out people like myself who could use ideas or even possibly learn something. I'm glad my post is serving that purpose for you!

Just a note on those owning step vans looking to replace the weatherstrip for your windows, I recently replaced the rubber weatherstripping in all my windows except the driver and passenger door windows for my 81 Chev P20. I have a bit extra of the 1/4"window x 1/8" panel size rubber that I'd sell for $1/foot plus shipping but would have to take the remainder of what I have. I can measure to see how much I have left. Mill supply sells it in 50ft rolls. Now for those wanting to replace the rubber in your doors with a 3/4" door thikness, mill suppy doesn't carry this even though the gasket they say works really doesn't. I've been on the phone with them and they even sent something else that didn't work. They claimed that this rubber couldnt be obtained. I have located the rubber that will work but I have to order a 50ft roll if this as well and I only need like 18-19 feet. I'd sell the remainder of that as well to someone after I recieve and use what I need. It'll save us both money by not having to pay for all that material that we don't need. I'll have to figure a price on that though. probly be around $2/foot plus shipping. Both prices are less than what I am paying per foot.

We're bringing our trailer and ice cream truck for graphics wraps today. The trailer will be done by Friday and the truck will be done next Tuesday. Very exciting! Can't wait to show you guys.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (yorkgym1)

Tue, 07 May 2013 18:58:48 GMT

I learned so much from your thread .. thanks for all the time you took to post pics and info details like the caulk used , prima supply..( that is the exact sink I was looking at t btw) southco latch...
Tony

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Mon, 06 May 2013 14:33:44 GMT

yorkgym1

please tell me how your cut the stainless steel for the sink counter so perfectly?

After I drew my outline I used an angle grinder with a cutting blade and carefully cut it out. It wasn't perfect and the edges were rough. i went over the edges with a grinding wheel on. Also, when I placed my stainless on my counter top, I used masking tape around every edge prior to placing my silicone sealant to cover up any uglyness and to give it crisp clean lines so that it came out with a very nice finish.

Thanks

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (yorkgym1)

Mon, 06 May 2013 14:26:37 GMT

please tell me how your cut the stainless steel for the sink counter so perfectly?

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Thu, 02 May 2013 07:49:16 GMT

stinger159

Very nice job on the trailer build

Thank you very much. I hope you gained something from the thread. I'm pretty well please with what I ended up with. I'm thinking about installing a 50amp 220volt service to the trailer but not sure yet. I'm having the trailer and ice cream truck wrapped next week so with that expense I'm sorta drained for cash a bit.

I'll post pics of each after the wraps are installed.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Thu, 02 May 2013 07:46:25 GMT

DWags541

Let us know how you end up fastening that griddle/table down.

DWags, the method I used was laid out in post 33 of page 2 of the thread. Take a look and if you have some specific questions ask and I'll answer the best I can. This method has worked perfectly so far and I've take my trailer on many road trips now with no issues whatsoever.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (DWags541)

Wed, 01 May 2013 19:50:56 GMT

Let us know how you end up fastening that griddle/table down.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (stinger159)

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:30:38 GMT

Very nice job on the trailer build

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (kingofcreams)

Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:03:51 GMT

ddbuster:
Well the window itself came from Menards. It is just a residential sliding window. The size is 36" x 48". The metal studs in this trailer are 24" on center so when I cut my opening I only needed to cut through one stud. I then made a 2x3 frame to reinforced the opening. I attached the 2x3's to the studs on each side. On the top and bottom of the framing in between the vertical studs I attached 1x2's to the upper and lower sides of the 2x3's which I was able to screw the plywood wall to for stability. These 1x2's are in the walls ( not visible) but are attached to the 2x3 framing on top and bottom. The 2x3 framing was installed flush with the exterior skin and actually sticks out inside the trailer by about 1 1/2 inches or so. It's been a while so I might not be exact. I then priming and painted the framing. The window has a installation flange with mounting holes all around so I attached the window from the inside of the trailer onto the inside edges of the 2 x 3 frame. I then trimmed the outside with aluminum angle
Installing from the inside like this indented the window from the outside which gave me a 1 1/2" ledge where I was able to mount the shocks and hinge for the windown awning that I made.

For the awning itself I used 1/2" inside measurement aluminum channel for the framing. All the ends were miter cut at 45 deg angle. I sandwiched a piece of either 1/4" or 3/8" plywood ( cant remember now ) inbetween .040 aluminum sheet for the exterior side and a piece of FRP for the interior side. Each corner of the plywood, aluminum and FRP were cut so that I could fit a smaller piece of channel ( which were cut at 45 deg angles ) inside the corners of the 1/2" channel. After those sheets were sandwiched, I slipped the 1/2 channel over the sheets one side at a time. After one side was on I placed the smaller cut channel pieces in the corners of the 1/2 channel untill all were installed. Once all sides were over the sheets and in place I drilled holes through the channel where the 45 deg angle met all the way through the smaller pieces that were placed inside the corners. I then pop riveted those pieces together. I did this on all corners and on both sides. I should mention, that the 1/2 channel was hard to slip over the sheets but it straightend out the bend ply wood. Also, I used silicone in the channel before I slipped over the sheets and after very neatly around all edges. Once complete, I used a stainless piano hinge to install to the trailer window opening. I then installed gas struts / shocks to lift and hold the awning open. I also installed cam locks and a handle.
I hope this helps a little. I am rushing to write this before I leave for work so just ask if you need clarification on something else.

Good luck and thanks for checking out my thread.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (ddbuster)

Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:29:55 GMT

King,
I am very impressed not only with the build, but the gracious time you spent documenting it. I am very interested in installing something similar to your window / awning (I just don't have 1300 bucks laying around for a window), and I was wondering if you had more info on the window itself, prep for the wall (other than just wood framing?), etc.
It appeared that the window framing was flush with the exterior, with the window inset a bit, but now with the awning it appears that the window frame has been trimmed in aluminum.
I understand that you can't spell out every nut and bolt you put in, but either I missed a few steps, or am too old and dumb to follow :)

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (JBJRConcessions)

Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:06:42 GMT

Oh, believe me, research is about all I've been doing on this. This became a working ideal the 1st week of August, and now we got the trailer almost down to the frame. We're going to do it from ground up instead of work with the junk that's there. 1 place I have found for used equipment is Fast Track Auctions. They have a LOT of used equipment, you just have to be willing to go and inspect it before you get caught up in the bidding. Last night I watched a Star 36" flat-top grill go for 380.00, that's normally about a 900.00 - 1,000.00 grill. I'm trying to get a fountain machine right now, the current bid is under 150.00, the last 1 I saw went for 90.00, but this is a lot newer. On another side note: Found 25 gauge galvanized interlock roof through KMT in New York state. The quote they gave me was under 200.00 plus shipping for a whole single piece roof. That's the best I've been able to find on that so far. I'm off most of this week, so I'm hoping to get some things done. Talk to everybody later!! :-)

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (Dr of BBQ)

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 21:17:35 GMT

JBJR fast is not always good, in fact it's almost never good in a build. The longer you take thinking, planing, and researching, the better your build/outcome will be. Heck with a full time job you have lots of winter nights to search RF and the internet for information that will make your trailer an easy to operate food service success.

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (JBJRConcessions)

Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:24:19 GMT

Thanks for posting the information on J. Freeman. Like I said, they seem to be the cheapest as far as trailer skins go that I can find. We did get our trailer and have been gutting it out in our spare time. It's a poster child for a basket case, but we're determined to at least have the inside 100%. I might not be able to do the outside skin replacement this winter, but there's always next year. Holding down a full time job don't allow much time to work on it, but I figure, weather permitting, I should have the roof patched and rubber roof paste on it within 2 weeks. I have been taking pics as I go, and we've agreed to make a scrapbook of this project. So once I'm able to post pics on here, I'll show what we started with. Thanks again for sharing and giving people like us hope for the future!! :-)

Re:Concession Trailer Build with intro (Dr of BBQ)

Sat, 15 Sep 2012 20:44:45 GMT

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