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agoskillym
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sabrett or nathans
Sun, 04/12/09 9:05 PM
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Ok, I don't know how to do a poll but I want to know what you prerfer and why. I've looked at the archives and did not really find what "I" was looking for. I've been using Nathans for about 2 years and never had a complaint about taste. I have recently switch to sabrett do to cost and ease of getting. I have not heard anything bad yet accept from family but I'm still a little concerned what other peoples views are. I have not had the chance to really ask regular customers yet. Me being originally from NY am use to Sabrett as well as Nathans but there is that slight difference. Thanks for the input
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lornaschinske
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 2:06 AM
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Most of our customers tell us we have the best dogs they've ever had. Many say they don't like either Sabretts or Nathans (taste &/or texture reasons). Could be a regional thing. I do think our dogs when over quite well this past weekend at the Toccoa Racetrack in the driver's area where we were selling. Many of them not only said we had the best, but many were also walking up and saying "everyone here says you have the best dogs". Of course most of the driver's were not from Toccoa, GA where they do have a certain hot dog restaurant that sell Nathan's
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 2:41 AM
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lornaschinske Most of our customers tell us we have the best dogs they've ever had. Many say they don't like either Sabretts or Nathans (taste &/or texture reasons). Could be a regional thing. I do think our dogs when over quite well this past weekend at the Toccoa Racetrack in the driver's area where we were selling. Many of them not only said we had the best, but many were also walking up and saying "everyone here says you have the best dogs". Of course most of the driver's were not from Toccoa, GA where they do have a certain hot dog restaurant that sell Nathan's Are your hot dogs natural casing or skinless?
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John Fox
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 6:48 AM
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I live in N.J. and like both Sabrett and Nathan's, but if I had to choose one, I would give the slight edge to Sabrett. In New York, the dogs are exceptional at Nathan's. Papaya King and Gray's Papaya, also in New York serve Sabrett's. I've compared them and I like the spicing a little better in the Sabrett's. I think it definitely is a regional thing. In North Carolina people prefer a milder pork/beef dog to a spicy New York style all beef one. Lorna, What brand do you serve?
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That'sMyDawg
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 7:11 AM
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agoskillym Ok, I don't know how to do a poll but I want to know what you prerfer and why. I've looked at the archives and did not really find what "I" was looking for. I've been using Nathans for about 2 years and never had a complaint about taste. I have recently switch to sabrett do to cost and ease of getting. I have not heard anything bad yet accept from family but I'm still a little concerned what other peoples views are. I have not had the chance to really ask regular customers yet. Me being originally from NY am use to Sabrett as well as Nathans but there is that slight difference. Thanks for the input I think it depends on where you live and what you have been eating as a kid. Some people will say they hate them both and some will kill for either. My wife loves Nathans until I gave her a Sabrett, now she raves about how good Sabrett's are. Best thing to do is cut some up of each, grab a box of toothpicks and start a taste test, be sure to keep score on paper not just in your head so you can see real numbers when done and not just "well about" this many or "about" that many like so & so better. You will know 4sure if it's om paper in front of you. In my area Sabretts cost less than Nathans but I am trying to use a less expensive product then both to cut down my cost. Notice I sad less exspensive and not cheaper lol. Personally I like both of them but like Sabrett's a little better I think. Some kinda after taste with Nathans to me. Just give um what they buy. I have seen guys put a rock bottom cheap dog (chicken) for sale and it sells at some places. Just depends on your price and the area.
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 8:46 AM
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the best dogs I ever had at a street cart were from a guy who grilled Hebrew Nationals. Well worth a few extra cents. but if I had to choose between those two I guess I'd go with Sabretts as a nostalgic hot dog cart favorite.
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 11:28 AM
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agoskillym
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 1:19 PM
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Thank you all for your input! Thats my Dawg, I think I may give your idea a try and see what works out best. thanks for the tip
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 1:50 PM
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I'm not selling either on my cart. I can honeslty say i have never tryed either so hard to say which one i one i would prefer. Mine are made at the Deli by the Butcher i buy them from. He has a whole bunch of different type of sausages he makes . The nice thing is you know that they are fresh & i can honestly say that all his sausages & dogs are delicious.
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John Fox
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 2:04 PM
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Are the dogs all beef or a beef and pork mixture?
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That'sMyDawg
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 4:54 PM
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agoskillym Thank you all for your input! Thats my Dawg, I think I may give your idea a try and see what works out best. thanks for the tip Anytime! You may get some new sales out of it after the taste test. Make your sign nice and big. FREE SAMPLES TODAY! TELL US WHAT YOU THINK!
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 5:28 PM
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Hello All, Where I live, neither have been offered, until Nathan's showed up at Wal-Mart. I like Nathan's. I would love to try Sabrett's. Actually, at work Nathan's showed up in our vending machine. It was pure heaven. The Nathan's at Wal-Mart were inferior to the vending machine ones. Take Care, Fieldthistle
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 6:47 PM
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A hot dog vending machine? I have lead a sheltered life.
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lornaschinske
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 9:30 PM
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We are serving Sam's Club Baker & Chef's brand all beef. These are skinless. We tried pretty much every hot dog in the grocery store case (plain, with chili and with sauerkraut) before deciding that the Ball Park All beef was the winner for taste and texture. In my opinion, Sabretts & Nathans sucks & Hebrew National was even worse. I dislike a tough skinned dog. Our test group was myself, David, & one of our daughters. But the real test was our customers. They are the ones who eat them. In our current area, it's Ball Parks mostly. We felt that the Bakers & Chefs was a slightly better tasting/better textured dog.
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Mon, 04/13/09 10:33 PM
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lornaschinske We are serving Sam's Club Baker & Chef's brand all beef. These are skinless. We tried pretty much every hot dog in the grocery store case (plain, with chili and with sauerkraut) before deciding that the Ball Park All beef was the winner for taste and texture. In my opinion, Sabretts & Nathans sucks & Hebrew National was even worse. While taste is certainly subjective, I can honestly say that I've never heard that Sabrett's, Nathan's and Hebrew National all suck, and Ball Park was the best. Maybe my taste buds are old and set in their ways.
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Tue, 04/14/09 12:28 AM
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Everytime I have been in the Carolinas, I have opted for local Carolinas Bar-B-Que. Back home, I can walk to the Sabrett's plant from where I live if I want to. Having happily consumed Sabrett's for over 50 years, I would givem then a nod.
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Tue, 04/14/09 1:26 AM
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I don't prefer Sabretts or Nathens. I Like Vienna better myself. But I don't serve any of those. Go figure. The Little Leagues here serve Bryans at their concessions.
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agoskillym
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Tue, 04/14/09 3:14 PM
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PopsDogHouse lornaschinske We are serving Sam's Club Baker & Chef's brand all beef. These are skinless. We tried pretty much every hot dog in the grocery store case (plain, with chili and with sauerkraut) before deciding that the Ball Park All beef was the winner for taste and texture. In my opinion, Sabretts & Nathans sucks & Hebrew National was even worse. While taste is certainly subjective, I can honestly say that I've never heard that Sabrett's, Nathan's and Hebrew National all suck, and Ball Park was the best. Maybe my taste buds are old and set in their ways. Pops I'm with you my taste must be a little off as well then!!!
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Tue, 04/14/09 7:05 PM
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agoskillym PopsDogHouse lornaschinske We are serving Sam's Club Baker & Chef's brand all beef. These are skinless. We tried pretty much every hot dog in the grocery store case (plain, with chili and with sauerkraut) before deciding that the Ball Park All beef was the winner for taste and texture. In my opinion, Sabretts & Nathans sucks & Hebrew National was even worse. While taste is certainly subjective, I can honestly say that I've never heard that Sabrett's, Nathan's and Hebrew National all suck, and Ball Park was the best. Maybe my taste buds are old and set in their ways. Pops I'm with you my taste must be a little off as well then!!! I have heard several people voice this opinion. I didn't pay too much attention to them, however, as their tooth-to-tatoo ratio was pretty high. I have used the Baker's and Chef's all beef franks once at a festival where they specifically requested them. I found them to be nearly identical to Oscar Meyer and very bland. Also, they began their life as 6-inch franks and within 20 minutes were 4.5 inch. IMHO, NOT fit for human consumption.
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That'sMyDawg
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Wed, 04/15/09 11:46 AM
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MikeinRI I'm kind of surprised at the responses to this question. I posted this before but will repeat here. I taste tested like thatsmydawg said, well, no toothpicks. Heated up 5 brands and cut into bite size pieces. Vienna, Sabrett, Nathans, Ball Park, Hebrew National. I was the only one that knew which dog was on which plate. Each of the five people there ate a piece of each dog and almost all together pointed to Nathans and said, "that one". No one needed to try another piece. No one said "I can't decide". Or, "let me try again". Texture, taste was no contest. (they all were all beef, skinless 8 to 1's) After sitting for several minutes the Nathans was still juicy. Others seemed to dry out some. Tossed out lots of dogs that day. No one wanted any of the other brands. Heated up a bunch of Nathans and we all happily chowed down. In the 2 weeks I've been open, I've had MANY people comment on how good they are. Several times I've had folks walking by and I hear one person ask the other, "want a hot dog"? and one of them will ask, "what kind of dog do you sell" and when I tell them they say, "really"?! "I'll take 2!" Maybe taste is a regional thing, but I bet I'd get frowns from the 5 people that tested that day if I suggested that their taste is "regional" and that Nathans isn't really THAT good. My $.02 Very interesting. like I have said, I like Nathans but I just like a Sabrett better but I have neither on my menu. Also I am turned off by the price of Nathans, to me they are good but not so good to justify the higher price to get them. Plus I still think I get a sorta aftertaste when I eat Nathans. Good looking dog though! Funny story, when I was doing research one day with taste and samples one guy was like " I like that one better before he even tasted it? (pointed at a Nathans-he didn't know what it was) I asked what he liked about it? He mentioned it was longer than the others. (only a little longer than my bun sized second choice. I then pointed out to him by holding up another brand that these 2 were the same weight per package (1lb) and that Dog A was simply streteched out to make it look longer and pointed out how skinny it was compared to Dog B or C or D. I told him they all were the exact same weight per pack, per dog. (8 to 1) He then scratched his head for a second and said, " you kidding me?" nope, each pack is one pound but look how much fatter the other dogs are. lol he then said (after he tasted them) he liked Brand B better? ( ABCD) Why is that? "They just taste better and seemed to be more filling then the skinny dog (Nathans) So the point is, sometimes people decide based on personal perception and not taste. First he liked the Nathans based on looks BEFORE he tried any of them but after he tasted them he liked another brand better and then added he felt it was more dog for the money because it felt heavier and looked meatier. If the samples are split down the middle then offer both, if it is one sided than offer what the majority picks. You can always switch up and don't saying anything and watch if feedback or sells jump based on your dog at the time. My.02 By the way if anyone wanted to know what were the samples and how they were judged. Color Taste Texture Size A Nathans B Sabrett C Ballpark --------------- winner by landslide, was not even close. D O. Meyer
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That'sMyDawg
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Wed, 04/15/09 9:45 PM
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MikeinRI That'smydawg, Did you test the short Nathans or the "bigger than the bun"? You make several references to the Nathans being skinnier than the others you tested. I use New England style split top buns and the Nathans almost splits them apart they're so fat. When cut open and squeezed none of the others had the juiceyness that Nathans does. Oh well. I guess whatever works for us is what we should go with. Also, if I may, what do you pay per dog that you sell? What does Nathans cost there? Also, I didn't mean to mislead when I said I tested like you did. I tested with family and friends, not customers. Hey MikeinRI- I used the bigger than Bun Nathans. The Sabrett and the Ballpark also were bigger than bun, only the O. Meyers were regular sized. (didnt have any others in store) Although 3 of the 4 were the long dogs the Nathans were still longer than the other two so they looked skinnier compared to the other two bigger than bun dogs. I know what you mean about the juicyness. I have always thought Nathans were a pretty juicy dog, I like the color the best though. You are exactly right in that what ever the people want we should give um. Also my wording may have mixed you or others up when I said " if split down the middle" I did not mean if the dog was cut down the middle, I was saying if the taste testers liked the same number of brand A as brand B. When I read it back I though it might not have been clear, if it was clear no problem. I pay $1.99 (8 to 1) My wife does not like them as much as Sabrett or Nathans but she does not buy them HA HA (DO NOT TELL HER I SAID THAT)lol As for Nathans, I don't even remember because I never bought them after the first time. What ever the price was it was something I did not want to pay. I tested with customers but not paying customers, I had a dog giveaway on my street since I did not have permission to sell them (HD, etc, etc) so I gave them away and used it as a oportunity to research what people liked and to get my company name out there along with getting the nerves out the way of talking to people about hotdogs. The reason I used toothpics so that people could hold 4 different samples in two hands and compare looking at 4 at the same time. It was just the cheapest and easiest way I could think of but I'm sure there are other ways. I didnt like the idea of napkins. Family and friends work well most times with testing, I asked my family what they thought before I started with the people in the area. Problem is my kids want to say what ever the other siblings say and it turned into a big giggle fest (all young girls) so I excluded there feedback and went with strangers.
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lornaschinske
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Wed, 04/15/09 10:06 PM
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We have just run into very few folks who prefer the Sabretts, Nathans, etc here. So I think we will continue to sell the "lesser" brand to the folks who don't have the !-- @page { size: 8.27in 11.69in; margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> discerning taste buds that you guys have. I figure it's probably kinda like oranges. David & I have mild disagreements over oranges. My great grandfather & grandfather both operated orange groves in FL. I grew up in the "Indian River" area of FL. My family often says the only thing Navel oranges are goof for are to feed to the cows, hogs & Yankees. David (from Michigan... yes, it was a little iffy at our wedding but there were no fights) only ate Navels growing up (like many folks did since they shipped so well, not because they were really good oranges). He still will only eat "nasty Navels". When my family first moved up here to NC (1965), we would bring citrus from home over the Christmas holidays. Folks around here would refuse to eat our fresh-straight-from-the-grove oranges and grapefruit. Why??? Because they were "round" and not flat-sided from being packed into a box at the packing plant. Sometimes what folks ate as a kid, makes a big difference in what they eat as an adult. At the Tea Party today, a lady told us she never ate hot dogs because as a kid, her father lost his business and all they ate was really cheap hot dogs. As an adult, she simply cannot bear to eat a hot dog (she got a Kielbasa).
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lornaschinske
Wed, 04/15/09 11:24 PM
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glad u did well at the racetrack this past weekend. u should stopped by our place on Sat. with regards to our "Nathan's" understand on a daily basis we only sell 25 to 30 of either Natural casing or Skinless a day compared to 300-400 a day of our "regular" hotdogs. but like someone else said its a regional thing, most folks in the south care more about the the Chili and other toppings than they do the wiener. i have actually seen a good number of folks try a Nathan's(NC or Skinless) and say they prefer our regular Hotdog fixed the way we've always fixed it. i will say that a Nathans Natural Casing all beef with mustard and Kraut is pretty darn good.
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That'sMyDawg
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Thu, 04/16/09 9:03 AM
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MikeinRI That'smydawg, Did you test the short Nathans or the "bigger than the bun"? You make several references to the Nathans being skinnier than the others you tested. I use New England style split top buns and the Nathans almost splits them apart they're so fat. When cut open and squeezed none of the others had the juiceyness that Nathans does. Oh well. I guess whatever works for us is what we should go with. Also, if I may, what do you pay per dog that you sell? What does Nathans cost there? Also, I didn't mean to mislead when I said I tested like you did. I tested with family and friends, not customers. Life is funny sometimes lol. I found Nathans bigger than bun on sell today for 1.77 so there goes my argument on price ha ha. I'll stock up on them while I can. .22 each I can live with just fine. Will switch up the choices here and there.
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agoskillym
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Thu, 04/16/09 8:11 PM
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Well I think I'm going to give the good old taste test a shot and see what everyone else thinks. I will give it a shot in the up coming week and I'll let you all know the out come. Thanks again to everyone!!!
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Thu, 04/16/09 8:41 PM
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Personally, I am partial to Sabrett dogs as opposed to Nathan's. I like the flavor better and I like the snap. The first dog I had in New York was a Sabrett with their famous onion sauce and I fell in love at first bite. I later visited Nathan's on Coney Island and had a dog there with mustard and onions and it was ok but not as good as the Sabrett. I have also tried Vienna Beef dogs when in Chicago and they are a good vehicle for the toppings that go onto a Chicago dog. I love their Polish dog though. JMHO David O.
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Thu, 04/16/09 10:27 PM
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hotdog506 glad u did well at the racetrack this past weekend. u should stopped by our place on Sat. We simply do not have the time before the races begin. We drive down from Franklin and come in on the south side of town (by Super Walmart). And then it's was pretty much non-stop until the races ended. We will probably be doing this until we leave for NM in the middle of May.
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Fri, 04/17/09 2:36 PM
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MikeinRI That'smydawg, wow 22 cents each. That's good. I pay 31 or 32 cents each here depending on location. Having trouble finding the short Nathans now cause Sams Club stopped carrying them. They only carry the bigger than bun. Not sure I want to carry those. Not as juicy. Waiting for Rest. Depot to start carrying them. Supposed to be soon. I think I'll give Ball Park a try in the meantime. Agoskillym, good luck and let us know. Yeah, I thought so too.
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Fri, 04/17/09 11:49 PM
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Re:sabrett or nathans
Sat, 04/18/09 12:57 AM
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Sarah Palin and her family have been to the Matsu Family restaurant before and like our food. Unfortunately, we don't sell hot dogs per se, but we do sell Polish sausage and Hot links. Maybe we can do something with that. LOL David O.
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