Big Al - What about Peter Luger's?
I haven't been yet. I haven't been to a lot of the supposedly great burger places in NYC so my excitement over Ray's Hell Burgers might be from lack of other experiences. Here are some places in NYC I've been to.
Shake shack- ok, but forgettable. Not worth waiting more than 10 minutes for.
5 guys- ok, but overcoooked (they only do well done)
Brooklyn Diner near Carnegie Hall- supposedly great, but the burger I had was overcooked. It was pink but there was just one pocket of juice in it which spurted out all at once. The rest was dry. Too expensive also. Maybe I should give it another try.
Cityburger (the "black label" burger)- supposedly great, but the burger I got was cooked beyond well done even though it was supposed to be medium rare. It actually tasted ok anyway. Maybe I'll go back.
Piper's Kilt in Riverdale- good burger
Island Burger- very good burger and they cook it a perfect medium rare. Prior to having ray's hell burger it may have been my favorite burger eaten at a restaurant.
I'll definitely have to try peter luger's at some point. There are a bunch of other places in the city that are supposedly great also. I'd definitely like to find another burger place like Ray's where I couldn't put the burger down. I pretty much inhaled it. And for less than $7!!