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mar52

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Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 12:20 PM (permalink)
 
I love making soup as much as I love eating soup.
 
From looking at CTF's pictures I now wonder if there is too much soup in my creations.  Do you prefer more chew in your soup?
 
I start my soups on the stove and when I need more room to cook other things,  I finish them off in Crock pots.
 
These two soups started as one until I heard....  "You're making clam soup?  You know I don't eat clams!"
 
So I split my base between two pots, added different things to each and ended up with two disctinctly different soups.
 
 
The Manhattan Clam isn't finished in this picture.  If I remember correctly I added some more tomato sauce to this pot before it was finished.
 

 
Sudden Cabbage Soup
 


Should they have been thicker? 

 
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    Mosca

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    Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 12:30 PM (permalink)
    I dunno, mar. The restaurant near me, Junie G's, makes soup from the previous day's leftovers (things like Reuben soup, spaghetti soup, etc), and usually it's kind of thin and really good. For myself I make it really hearty, very full. But that doesn't mean it is as good a soup as it could be.
     
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      mar52

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      Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 12:35 PM (permalink)
      Maybe it's the flavor that's just as important as the substance.
       
      When I make lentil soup the spoon can stand straight up in the pot.
       
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        kland01s

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        Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 12:40 PM (permalink)
        I like soups to be more soupy, a lot of things I put in it I blend down and add stock. I like a rich full flavor but not a lot of chew.
         
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          chewingthefat

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          Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 12:48 PM (permalink)
          Too thick and it's stew, but I could live on soup forever!
           
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            ann peeples

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            Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 1:04 PM (permalink)
            I prefer more "brothy soups" with the exceptions of my bean soup and white clam chowder. Both your soups look awesome, Mar.
             
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              MellowRoast

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              Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 1:12 PM (permalink)
              Both of the soups pictured look perfect to me.
               
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                Wintem01

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                Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 1:50 PM (permalink)
                The cabbage soup looks perfect for today in Ohio (cold, grey and rainy). I'll have a bucket full please.
                 
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                  BillyB

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                  Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 1:54 PM (permalink)
                  (You cabbage soup looks perfect)
                   
                  Hi Mar, This is a Cabbage & Hot Dog Soup (Nathans hot dogs) I'm showing you this so you could see how creamy it gets when you thicken a chicken stock with a Roux. I then sauteed Cabbage, onions and celery until tender then added it to the thickened broth. When you thicken the broth it comes out nice and smooth, this is a real easy soup and great for cool fall and winter days..........just an Idea..........Take care.......BillyB

                  <message edited by BillyB on Thu, 11/18/10 2:28 PM>
                   
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                    leethebard

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                    Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 2:09 PM (permalink)
                    Soup is a perfect meal--one tasty pot of nourishment...and your soups look perfect!
                     
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                      rjb

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                      Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 2:41 PM (permalink)
                      Your dishes look excellent.  They bear a remarkable resemblance to soup -- you know, the dish that makes one reach for a soup spoon rather than a trowel.
                       
                      #11
                        walesjs

                        Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 3:56 PM (permalink)
                        I definitely prefer less chew and more broth/liquid. That is, if it's supposed to be soup and not stew.  If you can eat 90% of it using just a fork, it ain't soup.
                         
                         
                         
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                          Foodbme

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                          Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 4:30 PM (permalink)
                          Funny you should mention. Today is soup-making day at our house,. My Bride made Onion soup this AM and I'm making Beef Vegetable this PM.
                          Density depends on the type of soup you're making. She makes Onion Soup with a lot of broth because she only eats the broth, never an onion crosses her lips! I make the Beef Veggie on the medium thick side. Her Onion soup is the best I've ever had. Here's her recipe:
                           
                          GRAMMY’S FRENCH ONION SOUP
                          3 Tablespoons butter
                          2 Tablespoons oil
                          6 cups thinly sliced yellow onions (2 lbs.)
                          1 teaspoon salt
                          ½ teaspoon sugar
                          3 Tablespoons flour
                          7 (14 oz) cans of beef broth
                          1 cup red cooking wine
                          2 bay leaves
                          1 teaspoon sage (dried)
                          Salt & Pepper to taste
                          Up to 1 Tablespoon instant beef bouillon granules if you want a stronger beefy taste
                          Choice of cheese – gruyere, provolone, parmesan, etc
                          Croutons or French bread slices
                          DIRECTIONS
                          Melt butter with oil in heavy 6 qt. pan.  Add onions & stir.
                          Cover pan & cook over moderately low heat for 15 –20
                          minutes, stirring occasionally until onions are tender & translucent.  Uncover pan, raise heat to moderately hot, stir in salt & sugar.  Cook 30minutes, stirring frequently until onions are rich brown color.  Do not let them burn.
                          Lower heat to moderate, stir in flour.  Add a bit more butter if flour doesn’t stir into a paste with the onions.  Cook slowly stirring constantly for 2 minutes to brown the flour lightly.
                          Slowly pour in about a cup of hot broth stirring to make sure it blends well.  Addremaining broth & wine, bay leaves, sage and bring to a simmer.  Simmer for 30  minutes. 
                          Season to taste with salt, pepper, and instant bouillon.
                          If not serving immediately, let uncovered & reheat when ready.  Cover to refrigerate.
                          Float bread & top with cheese.  Bake @ 350 until cheese bubbles & slightly brown (about 5-10 minutes).  Watch carefully so it doesn’t burn.
                          Another way to serve is to ladle it into oven proof bowls & add cheese.  Top with circle of puff pastry dough big enough to fit over the top of bowl.  Press the pastry down around the bowl to seal it tight. Cut 1 small slit in the top.  Bake @ 450 for 15 minutes – until top is puffed & golden brown.  Serve immediately.
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
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                            tcrouzer

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                            Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 4:42 PM (permalink)
                            Last week I was fighting a sinus infection and made three soups to warm me body and soul:
                            ~ homemade chicken noodle with leftover baked chicken thighs, chicken broth, carrots/celery/onion, some diced potato, and really thin egg noodles = really good soup but a little thick since I did not measure the noodles
                            ~ potato soup, my favorite recipe, onion sauteed in olive oil and butter, lots of diced potato, chicken broth and milk, simmered until potatoes were done, then buzzed with an immersion blender until silky smooth
                            ~ beef, barley, and vegetable soup, diced beef from whatever I had on hand in the freezer, cooked with onion in oil then cooked 12 minutes in the pressure cooker in broth (chicken - no beef broth on hand), diced potatoes, carrots, barley, and some dried soup vegetables added and simmered until done.
                               Monday we had a Soup Lunch fundraiser at work and I took a crock pot of butternut squash soup: onion and apple cooked in oil and butter, baked butternut squash, vegetable broth, marjoram, curry powder, white wine, and a bit of brown sugar, blend smooth. I made it vegetarian for a couple of people that work here; it's better with chicken broth.
                               This weekend I hope to make my favorite Curried Chicken Noodle Soup - depending on what the weather is like. It was orginally made with chicken noodle Soup Starter, but that is no longer available. I plan to try to recreate it: a whole chicken cooked in water and some white wine, half the meat from said chicken chopped and added back into the soup; then, diced potatoes, carrots, celery, onion, curry powder, noodles and some of those dried soup vegetables. Finally an 8 oz. block of Velveeta cheese is cubed and added to melt. Baaad I know! But this is some good soup!
                             
                            Yes.....too much soup is a good thing!
                             
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                              PapaJoe8

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                              Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 5:52 PM (permalink)
                              Soup needs pleanty of juice. Everything here looks, and sounds, great!
                              Joe
                               
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                                mar52

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                                Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Thu, 11/18/10 11:15 PM (permalink)
                                BillyB:
                                Thanks for that tip.  I like a little richer broth.
                                 
                                Foodbme:
                                I'm going to try your wife's French Onion Soup.  I make it often and have never added flour.  I am going to add some of that wistershersheershire sauce though.  Maybe after doing it her way.
                                 
                                I made some lentil soup two Thanksgivings ago with the turkey carcass and one leg that hadn't been eaten. It's the ongoing soup.  I keep adding to it, eating some and it never seems to get eaten up.
                                 
                                Maybe I'll start a new one this year and add the old one to it.  Can't hurt!
                                 
                                 
                                 
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                                  kland01s

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                                  Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Fri, 11/19/10 9:14 AM (permalink)
                                  mar52


                                  I'm going to try your wife's French Onion Soup.  I make it often and have never added flour. 


                                   
                                  I make French Onion Soup a lot but I carmelize my onions with a half cup of sugar and just let the onions and sugar simmer for about an hour until the onions are golden brown. 
                                   
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                                    CajunKing

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                                    Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Fri, 11/19/10 4:06 PM (permalink)
                                    Mar52
                                     
                                    As to the thickness of your wonderful looking soups, I truly believe the thickness of such creations depends on a person's likes or dislikes.
                                     
                                    I love veggie soup with a thinner brothier look and taste also chicken noodle this way too.
                                     
                                    I love chowders to be thicker and more stick to the ribs
                                     
                                    Everyone is different and I have found very few soups I don't like (progresso soups ) but that is me.  I like to make a huge pot and eat for several days on it.
                                     
                                    In fact for this weekend I am making a Ham & Bean Soup sort of medium thickness, liquid enough to let the corn bread soak into it but thick enough to stand alone too.
                                     
                                    The second batch is Mexican Tortilla Soup it is a thin spicy soup which is great with the tortillas crushed.
                                     
                                     
                                     
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                                      PapaJoe8

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                                      Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Fri, 11/19/10 8:38 PM (permalink)
                                      I often end up doing an ongoing soup. Maybe also called Stone Soup. I just keep addin stuff each day or so. And bring it back to a good boil. I have heard some folks up north keep an ongoing pot on their wood stove all winter.
                                      Joe
                                       
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                                        Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Fri, 11/19/10 9:57 PM (permalink)
                                        PapaJoe8


                                        I often end up doing an ongoing soup. Maybe also called Stone Soup. I just keep addin stuff each day or so. And bring it back to a good boil. I have heard some folks up north keep an ongoing pot on their wood stove all winter.
                                        Joe


                                        PJ8 - I hate to be the one to tell you this but most of the "Folks up North" have replaced their Wood stoves with Gas or Electric ones. Some of them even have these new fangled things called Microwaves!
                                         
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                                          chewingthefat

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                                          Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Sat, 11/20/10 11:19 AM (permalink)
                                          Foodbme


                                          PapaJoe8


                                          I often end up doing an ongoing soup. Maybe also called Stone Soup. I just keep addin stuff each day or so. And bring it back to a good boil. I have heard some folks up north keep an ongoing pot on their wood stove all winter.
                                          Joe


                                          PJ8 - I hate to be the one to tell you this but most of the "Folks up North" have replaced their Wood stoves with Gas or Electric ones. Some of them even have these new fangled things called Microwaves!

                                          He's talking about West Virginia!

                                           
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                                            joerogo

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                                            Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Sat, 11/20/10 1:50 PM (permalink)
                                            chewingthefat


                                            Foodbme


                                            PapaJoe8


                                            I often end up doing an ongoing soup. Maybe also called Stone Soup. I just keep addin stuff each day or so. And bring it back to a good boil. I have heard some folks up north keep an ongoing pot on their wood stove all winter.
                                            Joe


                                            PJ8 - I hate to be the one to tell you this but most of the "Folks up North" have replaced their Wood stoves with Gas or Electric ones. Some of them even have these new fangled things called Microwaves!

                                            He's talking about West Virginia!

                                             
                                            You sure he wasn't talkin about Amarillo?
                                             
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                                              RestaurantBiz

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                                              Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Mon, 08/6/12 12:41 PM (permalink)
                                              I think differente soups lend themselves better to different consistency levels. Like a chicken noodle soup should be pretty "soupy" while something like a chili is generally better when it's thicker. 
                                               
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                                                gary1212

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                                                Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Tue, 08/7/12 9:54 AM (permalink)
                                                Well, anything in excess can be very harmful for a body as well as for our over all health. So consume foods in moderation. Soup is a healthy meal for our body. But in excess it can be harmful.
                                                 
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                                                  lleechef

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                                                  Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Tue, 08/7/12 11:08 AM (permalink)
                                                  How can soup be harmfull???  My father and grandfather ate it every day for lunch and they both lived into their late 80s.
                                                   
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                                                    kevincad

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                                                    Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Tue, 08/7/12 11:21 AM (permalink)
                                                    mar52


                                                     
                                                    I love making soup as much as I love eating soup.

                                                    From looking at CTF's pictures I now wonder if there is too much soup in my creations.  Do you prefer more chew in your soup?

                                                    I start my soups on the stove and when I need more room to cook other things,  I finish them off in Crock pots.

                                                    These two soups started as one until I heard....  "You're making clam soup?  You know I don't eat clams!"

                                                    So I split my base between two pots, added different things to each and ended up with two disctinctly different soups.


                                                    The Manhattan Clam isn't finished in this picture.  If I remember correctly I added some more tomato sauce to this pot before it was finished.



                                                    Sudden Cabbage Soup



                                                    Should they have been thicker? 

                                                    I love Manhattan style clam chowder!
                                                     
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                                                      seocom

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                                                      Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Tue, 08/7/12 1:08 PM (permalink)
                                                      Although your soup looks good and tasty, my preference for any soup is that you can eat the whole pot with a fork...No Spoon Needed...Stan...
                                                       
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                                                        Foodbme

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                                                        Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Tue, 08/7/12 3:08 PM (permalink)
                                                        gary1212

                                                        Well, anything in excess can be very harmful for a body as well as for our over all health. So consume foods in moderation. Soup is a healthy meal for our body. But in excess it can be harmful.

                                                        You're kidding, right???
                                                        I never heard of anyone dying from an overdose of soup!!!
                                                         
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                                                          FriedClamFanatic

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                                                          Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Tue, 08/7/12 10:20 PM (permalink)
                                                          I Gotta admit....my soups tend to be heavy on ingredients, light on "broth" I definitel want stuff "sticking up" outta the wet.  Admittedly I could add more liquids to make them go further, but over the years, we have gravitated to the "thick"  (not necessarily the liquid!) type
                                                           
                                                          One thing I do with leftover chicken bones and bits of breasts...after simmering them in chicken broth/stock, picking off the residual meat and adding veg, rice, whatever....I add 1-2 TBS of peanut butter per serving. It gives the whole thing a mellow lustrous texture with a hint of "what is it I taste?" panache.
                                                           
                                                          Oh.and my Clam Chowder has never seen a To-Mah-to.  Growing up on Cape Cod, that was known as Tomatoe soup with clams.  But I do divert from the Chowder purists by adding bacon........or linguica sausage if I can get it (heaven!) I've also been known to add a bit of Garlic.  And..although this would bar me from ever getting across the bridges to the Cape again if folks found out, I sometimes like a Rhode Island type Clam Chowder..clear, but i add a mix of chicken broth and clam juice
                                                           
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                                                            ann peeples

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                                                            Re:Is too much soup a good thing? Wed, 08/8/12 8:12 AM (permalink)
                                                            I am more of a broth person. My chicken soup is initially made with lots of ingredients, but ends up more like broth with chicken and dumplings. My bean soup is quite thick, but I water down my own servings...
                                                             
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