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Michael Hoffman

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Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 3:54 PM (permalink)
When it comes to that great Locally Grown notification about the food you're going to purchase in a store or consume in a restaurant, put on your skeptic's hat. Local in Washington D.C. can just as easily mean it was grown in California.
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    MiamiDon

    Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 4:19 PM (permalink)
    I like the same-state definition.  A restaurant in Key West could declare an ingredient to be locally-grown if it were from 830 miles away (by road) in Pensacola. 
     
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      RC51Mike

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      Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 4:51 PM (permalink)
      The marketing people jumped on the trend du jour of "local" and interpretated to suit their needs, not the intent.  Noting where the product came from and let the consumer decide if that is considered local is probably the best way to go.
       
      I get my honey from Lancaster County, PA, maple syrup from the Adirondacks, much of my cheese from Vermont and blueberries from Maine.  All are some distance from me but I consider "local" since those places have significance to me and I want to support them when I can.  "Local" sweet corn?  I better have driven past the farm in the last month or so if it's going to count.
       
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        EdSails

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        Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 5:22 PM (permalink)
        It has to be a naturally vague term. When I was in corvallis Oregon at the Farmers Market, the locally grown items seemed to come from a 30 mile radius. Here in LA/OC counties, local might be from Tehachapi farms, over 100 miles away. Many regular exhibitors at my local FM come from that distance. One of those terms that seems to cause more confusion and controversy than it's worth.
         
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          MellowRoast

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          Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 5:38 PM (permalink)
          Yes, I've wondered about that.  I suspect they consider it locally grown if it's domestically grown.  In other words, not in Mexico or China.  
           
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            joerogo

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            Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 5:41 PM (permalink)
            At this point, I consider "Grown in the USA" local.
             
            When you shop for produce, look for the "Point of Origin" label.  If your store doesn't have them, give them hell.  It's the law!
             
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              mar52

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              Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 5:58 PM (permalink)
              California is local.
               
               
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                Michael Hoffman

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                Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 6:06 PM (permalink)
                California is local to Nut City.
                 
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                  Foodbme

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                  Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 9:11 PM (permalink)
                  Most of those little stickers on Fruit & Produce usually give you the Point of Origin. Being in AZ, a lot of our stuff is from South of the Border. Since Fruit and Produce prices have been going up, the drug cartels have started smuggling in Fruit & Produce instead of Cocaine. It has a better profit margin!!!
                   
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                    ann peeples

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                    Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Fri, 04/1/11 9:21 PM (permalink)
                    What I love about Wisconsin in the summer is the farmers on the side of the road, standing in front of a full truck of home grown tomatoes, corn, fruit etc., selling their wares.Cheap, often just picked. This is a common sight along country roads.I rarely have to buy anything from the grocery store for a couple of months. Pure heaven.
                     
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                      chewingthefat

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                      Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 04/2/11 5:47 PM (permalink)
                      On our menu, we advertise "All our fish is caught daily...weeks ago"
                       
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                        Michael Hoffman

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                        Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 04/2/11 5:50 PM (permalink)
                        Greymo told me he could tell.
                         
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                          chewingthefat

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                          Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sun, 04/3/11 11:56 AM (permalink)
                          Michael Hoffman


                          Greymo told me he could tell.

                          Yeah but he had the Tunafish caught in the local crick! We bury them for a month before we filet them, gives the fish a unique flavor, you know Michael, UMAMI!

                           
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                            applesd

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                            Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Tue, 04/5/11 10:47 AM (permalink)
                            It's not just the grocery stores. There are three different roadside garden stands near where I live in the summer. I know at least one of them buys a lot of what they sell instead of growing it themselves. And they still have a sign in their yard that says "Locally Grown Produce".
                             
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                              NascarDad

                              Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Mon, 04/11/11 7:53 AM (permalink)
                              applesd


                              It's not just the grocery stores. There are three different roadside garden stands near where I live in the summer. I know at least one of them buys a lot of what they sell instead of growing it themselves. And they still have a sign in their yard that says "Locally Grown Produce".

                              Any of these near Richmond?  Do share 
                               
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                                tmiles

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                                Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 05/19/12 2:55 PM (permalink)
                                Here in Massachusetts, the term "native" became defined by law a few years ago, so marketers had to come up with another term. In my experience, even in a busy chain store, most employees will take the time to find out how local is local, if you ask.
                                 
                                Recently, I've been buying local honey. They say it helps with seasonal alergy (old wives tale? placebo effect??? I don't know).  One local company lists the origin. The honey may have been extracted in Mass, but the bees foraged in Florida orange groves or Maine blueberry fields. To be local in terms of being useful for hay fever, the bees need to belong to a backyard beekeeper who does not move hives around the country to pollinate.
                                 
                                I know an experienced beekeeper via my sheep assn, and my son in law is just starting out. He is a locally famous back yard brewer who wants to make meade. Their honey is truly local..........the hives don't move, the bees do.
                                 
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                                  Foodbme

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                                  Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 05/19/12 8:01 PM (permalink)
                                  Everything is locally grown somewhere! It may be transported somewhere else but it was locally grown somewhere.
                                   
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                                    tmiles

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                                    Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Tue, 07/31/12 7:08 PM (permalink)
                                    I have noticed at my little corn stand that folks really wonder, even more than in years past. There have been a few local stories about "farmers" that are not. Most of my new customers give me a friendly interview....."Exactly where is your farm", "do you REALLY grow EVERYTHING yourself?" etc.
                                     
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                                      FriedClamFanatic

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                                      Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Thu, 08/2/12 2:47 PM (permalink)
                                      In the town where I grew up, an enterprising "farmer" had his little corn stand at an easy cross-road. Surrounding it were about 10 acres of luscious corn and people would drive miles to get it and rave about it.  Too bad they weren't there at 3-4AM to see the trucks from Boston unloading their boxes and then hightailing it out before sunrise, taking their now-empty boxes with them.
                                       
                                      In a nearby state to the one I live in now, there's a wonderful Apple Orchard that offers all sorts of goodies. Too bad the property borders one of the more nasty super-sites.
                                       
                                      Local, native, organic, farm-raised(where else would you raise them?.an NYC skyscraper?), fresh-caught, diverboat, all-natural, re-cycled (BTW.OIL IS recycled! It once was plants and animals! And oil is used in plastics.) etc, etc.  Nice terms but....try and use a little common sense.  The only worse thing is when we have the government attempting to codify those terms and having control over them. Just what we need are huge teams of "definers" followed by overkill in enforcement.
                                       
                                      #19
                                        MiamiDon

                                        Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 08/11/12 9:02 AM (permalink)
                                        "Locally grown" has achieved a new status because of environmental consciousness.  The idea is that if one eats foods from far away, those foods have to be transported to one's location, often by truck.  Said trucking emits carbon that will harm the planet.  Local, less harm; far, more harm.
                                         
                                        This poster in no way endorses that philosophy.
                                         
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                                          Bruce Bilmes and Susan Boyle

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                                          Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 08/11/12 11:40 AM (permalink)
                                          I don't think there are very many people who buy locally grown food in order to reduce their carbon footprint. I think a better case can be made for locally grown on the grounds that it, in general, tastes better (depending on the specific product). You can get varieties that don't ship well; you can get varieties produced in quantities too small to ship; you can get produce picked riper; there's more chance of a local product coming from a smaller producer.
                                           
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                                            joerogo

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                                            Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 08/11/12 12:50 PM (permalink)
                                            To me local means, my back yard.  Commercially grown produce does not come close to the taste I get from my garden.
                                             
                                            We have real farmers at our farmers market.  They have been selling in this area for generations.  A lot of restaurants shop at the farmers market for their produce.  It really makes a big difference.    
                                             
                                            Acaro & Genell's in Old Forge always has the best tomatoes.  I asked where they were from.  The waitress said an Old Italian Guy grows them in his yard and delivers them everyday.  Gotta love A & G!
                                             
                                             
                                             
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                                              Mosca

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                                              Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 08/11/12 1:07 PM (permalink)
                                              Our Wegman's lists the farm and town from where the produce came. That's pretty impressive, I think.
                                               
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                                                lleechef

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                                                Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Sat, 08/11/12 4:29 PM (permalink)
                                                Our Giant Eagle here in Gahanna also lists the farm where the produce came from.  They have a surprising number of Ohio products which is unusual for a large grocery store chain.  We also have a farm market a few miles away.  Unfortunately, we travel too much back and forth to the Pittsburgh area to have our own garden.
                                                 
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                                                  FriedClamFanatic

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                                                  Re:Is "Locally Grown" Locally Grown? Mon, 08/13/12 6:44 PM (permalink)
                                                  In my neck of the woods (yes, there still are some) we have a ccouple of produce stands that still grow most of their own stuff.  And yes, they bring some carefully tried "stuff" in from others to supplement what they grow.  We also have a euphemistically called "farmers market" once a week where a bunch of locals bring their excess growth to be sold/taded.  Some of these "vendors" might make the EPA or the Health Dept cringe enough to give up their more than generous pensions, but the stuff tastes good, looks good, and still has got to be "better" for you han stuff trucked in from Chile
                                                   
                                                  The true highlight is a Mennonite/Amish Farmers market in Boothwyn every Friday and Saturday.  Sure, there are kitschy stores n this place too, but the produce and meats are superb.  Not cheap, but reasonable
                                                   
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