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C2CD

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Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sat, 05/18/13 11:27 PM (permalink)
Hello fellow Dog Slinger's;
 I am new to the Hot dog Game. I am a Chef by trade. My goal is to do hot dogs in a way that has never been done before. I am trying to come up with a high volume location, and I thought where I am trying to relocate to is a military area. There are like 5 or 6 bases within a 45 min radius. one is a super large, I mean huge base. There will be like 30,000 people taking lunch at the same time. How do you get on a base to operate though? Does anybody currently operate on a military base? Has anyone out there done it in the past? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
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    Foodbme

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    Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 3:15 AM (permalink)
    You have to get permission from the 3rd Undersecretary in the Bureau of Non-decisions, Department of Irrevelent Revelance. Or just call the President.
    SERIOUSLY, good luck. Sounds like a good idea if you can pull it off.
     
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      BobbyVang

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      Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 8:00 AM (permalink)
      Nice if you do get it. You might want to bring another person along with you to handle money/condiment refills/drinks if it really has that many people.
       
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        pnwchef

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        Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 10:30 AM (permalink)
        I would call the Base and start asking questions, like, do they let outside contractors on site. Is the food serve contracted or does the military do their own. Is there a bid process that a person has to go through to sell on the base.
          I would think with heightened security on Military bases that may be a problem. I would also think if there are 30K people on one site, they has to be a well coordinated food service operation already in place. ..........Good luck ..................pnwc
         
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          Michael Hoffman

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          Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 11:53 AM (permalink)
          First of all, there will never be 30,000 people taking lunch at the same time on a military installation. And while on most military installations there are commercially operated food choices, such as Burger King, Pizza Hut, etc., these are all contracted through the Department of Defense. However, you might be able to gain access by contacting the installation's MWR (Morale Welfare Recreation).
           
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            kennyb

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            Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 12:43 PM (permalink)
            we set up at fort Leavenworth 3 or4 years ago for about 5 months. they were remodeling the food court. we got permission from the company that handles the food court. i know they still have at least one trailer there.
             
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              lleechef

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              Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 12:56 PM (permalink)
              I used to deliver lunch to a couple of the guys at Kulis ANGB in Alaska.  One day there was a newbie at the guard house that gave me a hard time (even though I had a base sticker on the windshield).  I smiled sweetly and told him that if he let me deliver the lunches I would bring him lunch the next day.  Waved me right through!
               
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                C2CD

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                Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 2:13 PM (permalink)
                @Michael Hoffman First of all, there will never be 30,000 people taking lunch at the same time on a military installation. And while on most military installations there are commercially operated food choices, such as Burger King, Pizza Hut, etc., these are all contracted through the Department of Defense. However, you might be able to gain access by contacting the installation's MWR (Morale Welfare Recreation).  
                I beg to differ. It is Norfolk Naval Station (NOB) I was stationed there when I was in the NAVY and when all the Carriers (5K ppl each) our in port, plus the 30-40 other ships our in port, + the base personnel for the largest navy base in the world all go to lunch it is indeed around 30K going to lunch at the same time. I use to have to sit in the traffic from it.
                @ everyone else. I remember when I was stationed there, there was a food truck we use to call the roach coach, but this was back in 2001, MWR was no help. and when I call the base I get the run around about being civilian and they can't give phone numbers to me  
                Thanks for the replies though to all. I am not going to give up on this, it would be like working a festival everyday and yes I would definitely need to hire an extra hand for refills and cash handling. Thanks again folks I'll keep plucking away at it
                 
                 
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                  Tristan225

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                  Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 9:18 PM (permalink)
                  30K-YER GONNA NEED A BIGGER CART!
                   
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                    C2CD

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                    Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 9:40 PM (permalink)
                    30K is not how many I would serve I don't expect everyone to eat hot dogs or come everyday, but I dream of a fleet of my carts lining the pier alongside the fleet of Naval vessel's  well it's a nice dream anyway. That many people a day is not a bad pool of customer's to work with though. I got to find out how to get on base.
                     
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                      Tristan225

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                      Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 9:50 PM (permalink)
                      Maybe a percent to charity?
                       
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                        jcheese

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                        Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Sun, 05/19/13 10:35 PM (permalink)
                        The key is "Feet on the Ground".....There could be 30,000 folks around, but how many are WALKING by.
                         
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                          C2CD

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                          Re:Operating a Hot Dog Cart on a Military Base Mon, 05/20/13 1:12 AM (permalink)
                          Well If I could set up in front of the pier like the "roach coach" use too back when I was stationed there did, any given day I would say 3-5K people would walk past the cart. Would be great if I had more than 1 cart cause I could space them out along the pier. there are so many ships you would have to choose which to be in front of. I would set up in between 2 of the air craft carriers as they have the biggest crews and would in turn have the most traffic.
                           
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