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scrumptiouschef

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Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Thu, 05/30/13 1:28 PM (permalink)
We're a little over a week away from our latest pop up restaurant adventure. We're tackling the 4 strongest claimants as to being inventor of the hamburger. Menches Bros, Kaelin's, Nagreen's and Old Dave Fletcher.
Here's our Menches formula: any buckeyes out there that can add anything?
 
Protein: All natural, hand patted, Texas beef patty via Branch Ranch in Plains, Texas (hormone and antibiotic free, verified natural) Certainly a big improvement over the meat of that era.
Seasoning: Coffee, brown sugar, salt and pepper
Cooking method: cast iron pan
Cooking medium: oil
Bread: White bread (the hamburger bun was not invented til 1916 by Walter Anderson of White Castle fame
Topping: leaf lettuce, tomato, onion
Condiment: mustard
 
obviously we're using the best Texas beef we can lay our hands on.
 
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    EdSails

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    Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Thu, 05/30/13 4:34 PM (permalink)
    Interesting, I always thought Louis Lunch in New Haven invented the hamburger, but you've got dates 15 years earlier. Seems like I've got to read up on the places you mentioned. Any of them still around?
     
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      scrumptiouschef

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      Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Thu, 05/30/13 10:56 PM (permalink)
      as near as I can tell Menches Bros is the only one with a current brick n mortar up n running.
       
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        CCinNJ

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        Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Fri, 05/31/13 9:00 PM (permalink)
        Very cool project for an event.

        How are you incorporating coffee into the hamburger?
         
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          Twinwillow

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          Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Fri, 05/31/13 9:11 PM (permalink)
          I've heard, there are four places that claim to have invented the hamburger.
           
          Louis Lunch stands (quite) firm that they did the first one.
           
          Regardless, I'm sure glad someone did!
           
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            EdSails

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            Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Fri, 05/31/13 9:17 PM (permalink)
            I found it interesting after I read this. Thanks, Scrumptious Chef. Kaelin's is the one who claims to have invented the cheeseburger in 1934. Interesting stuff about the other places and people too. Good topic!
             
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              Davwud

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              Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 8:53 AM (permalink)
              Twinwillow


              I've heard, there are four places that claim to have invented the hamburger.

              Louis Lunch stands (quite) firm that they did the first one.

              Regardless, I'm sure glad someone did!

              The Library of Congress gives Louie Lessen credit for inventing the hamburger but there are other claims. Three others are being investigated here however I don't feel any of them did because all of these sandwiches came on bread not a bun. As such, I feel like they created something more like a hamburger sandwich rather than a straight up hamburger.
               
              It is what it is however.
               
              DT
               
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                Twinwillow

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                Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 11:37 AM (permalink)
                Davwud


                Twinwillow


                I've heard, there are four places that claim to have invented the hamburger.

                Louis Lunch stands (quite) firm that they did the first one.

                Regardless, I'm sure glad someone did!

                The Library of Congress gives Louie Lessen credit for inventing the hamburger but there are other claims. Three others are being investigated here however I don't feel any of them did because all of these sandwiches came on bread not a bun. As such, I feel like they created something more like a hamburger sandwich rather than a straight up hamburger.

                It is what it is however.

                DT

                 
                So, who then was the first to have invented the hamburger on a bun?
                 
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                  scrumptiouschef

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                  Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 12:06 PM (permalink)
                  CCinNJ


                  Very cool project for an event.

                  How are you incorporating coffee into the hamburger?

                  we're making a dust out of salt, pepper, sugar and coffee
                   
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                    Michael Hoffman

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                    Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 12:42 PM (permalink)
                    Twinwillow


                    Davwud


                    Twinwillow


                    I've heard, there are four places that claim to have invented the hamburger.

                    Louis Lunch stands (quite) firm that they did the first one.

                    Regardless, I'm sure glad someone did!

                    The Library of Congress gives Louie Lessen credit for inventing the hamburger but there are other claims. Three others are being investigated here however I don't feel any of them did because all of these sandwiches came on bread not a bun. As such, I feel like they created something more like a hamburger sandwich rather than a straight up hamburger.

                    It is what it is however.

                    DT


                    So, who then was the first to have invented the hamburger on a bun?

                    Well, shortly after I invented the bun I happened to run out of bread while cooking a hamburger. Thinking quickly I reached for my newly-invented bun and, lo and behold ... well, I'm sure you know the rest.

                     
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                      Twinwillow

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                      Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 1:04 PM (permalink)
                      Michael Hoffman


                      Twinwillow


                      Davwud


                      Twinwillow


                      I've heard, there are four places that claim to have invented the hamburger.

                      Louis Lunch stands (quite) firm that they did the first one.

                      Regardless, I'm sure glad someone did!

                      The Library of Congress gives Louie Lessen credit for inventing the hamburger but there are other claims. Three others are being investigated here however I don't feel any of them did because all of these sandwiches came on bread not a bun. As such, I feel like they created something more like a hamburger sandwich rather than a straight up hamburger.

                      It is what it is however.

                      DT


                      So, who then was the first to have invented the hamburger on a bun?

                      Well, shortly after I invented the bun I happened to run out of bread while cooking a hamburger. Thinking quickly I reached for my newly-invented bun and, lo and behold ... well, I'm sure you know the rest.
                       
                      Pure genius, Michael. We all thank you for your inventive spirit!  Oh by the way, I was curious. Did you use a plain or seeded bun? 
                       
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                        Davwud

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                        Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 1:41 PM (permalink)
                        Twinwillow


                        Davwud


                        Twinwillow


                        I've heard, there are four places that claim to have invented the hamburger.

                        Louis Lunch stands (quite) firm that they did the first one.

                        Regardless, I'm sure glad someone did!

                        The Library of Congress gives Louie Lessen credit for inventing the hamburger but there are other claims. Three others are being investigated here however I don't feel any of them did because all of these sandwiches came on bread not a bun. As such, I feel like they created something more like a hamburger sandwich rather than a straight up hamburger.

                        It is what it is however.

                        DT


                        So, who then was the first to have invented the hamburger on a bun?

                        This is my vote for the inventor of the Hamburger: http://www.webersoftulsa.com/webers_story.asp
                         
                        There are many who shoot it down and I believe sometimes it has nothing to do with the claim but simple geography. People in and around New Haven will never agree to this. I've even seen people, from Texas, admit that they won't allow it due to interstate rivalry. I have absolutely no ties to any claim anywhere. I simply believe that if it was served on bread, it doesn't qualify.
                        http://www.webersoftulsa.com/webers_story.asp
                         
                        DT
                         
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                          Twinwillow

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                          Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 1:55 PM (permalink)
                          Sound's real enough to convince me.
                           
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                            EdSails

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                            Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 2:27 PM (permalink)
                            DT,
                            I don't know how  much I believe of that more than any of the other stories, but Weber sure sounds like a worthwhile stop for a visit some time. Even though I've had two large grills and the little portable one, I never knew all about the history. Never too old too learn!
                            Ed
                             
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                              CCinNJ

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                              Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 2:48 PM (permalink)
                              Best wishes for a great event next week!

                              I can't wait to read all about it!
                               
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                                Michael Hoffman

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                                Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 3:33 PM (permalink)
                                I invented the bun. A bun does not have seeds. Those things that have seeds on them are called chicken feed.
                                 
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                                  kland01s

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                                  Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 4:16 PM (permalink)
                                  EdSails


                                  DT,
                                  I don't know how  much I believe of that more than any of the other stories, but Weber sure sounds like a worthwhile stop for a visit some time. Even though I've had two large grills and the little portable one, I never knew all about the history. Never too old too learn!
                                  Ed

                                   
                                  Weber Grill has nothing to do with this.
                                   
                                  http://www.weber.com/
                                   
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                                    Twinwillow

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                                    Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 4:53 PM (permalink)
                                    Michael Hoffman


                                    I invented the bun. A bun does not have seeds. Those things that have seeds on them are called chicken feed.

                                     
                                    Oh. I did not know that.
                                     
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                                      EdSails

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                                      Re:Akron Ohio: Duplicating Menches Bros Hamburger from 1885 Sat, 06/1/13 6:02 PM (permalink)
                                      kland01s




                                      Weber Grill has nothing to do with this.

                                      http://www.weber.com/

                                       
                                      My mistake, just saw Weber and it slid through my brain too fast!
                                       
                                       
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