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Sundancer7

Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 12:02 PM (permalink)
I reside at mile marker 641 on the Tennessee River.  I see all kinds of unusual vessels going up and down the Tennessee from 20 million dollar yachts to barges and many other vessels but yesterday was the strangest of all.  I saw a replica of the Nina and Pinta going up river for a week long visit to Knoxville.  Very very interesting. 
 
 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
<message edited by Sundancer7 on Fri, 10/25/13 12:05 PM>
 
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    Tumbleweed365

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    Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 1:04 PM (permalink)
    Very cool !

    I saw these when they were in Columbus, Ohio,
    and was amazed that anyone would attempt to cross an ocean in something
    That small.
     
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      Michael Hoffman

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      Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 1:13 PM (permalink)
      The Santa Maria copy is moored permanently in downtown Columbus on the Scioto River.
       
      #3
        buffetbuster

        Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 1:14 PM (permalink)
        That is very cool Paul.  I would have just sat there and been fascinated by it.  Thank you for sharing!
         
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          fishtaco

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          Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 1:17 PM (permalink)
          Being retired from the Navy, it always amazes me as to what men sailed on many years ago. And to think we would  moan and complain if we couldn't take a shower for a couple days or the A/C was down for one. Or as always the chow!
           
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            lleechef

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            Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 1:26 PM (permalink)
            Very cool!  I remember when the Tall Ships came to Boston, I lived about 1 block from Boston Harbor and we all sat there for hours, mesmerized, watching these beautiful ships sail past us!
             
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              easydoesit

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              Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 2:10 PM (permalink)
              Looks like they've been making the rounds.  They were here, in little Winona MN twice in July, going up and down the Mississippi.  The stop here was sponsored by the local state university.
               
              The boats are docked at what is left of our once beautiful levee, close to downtown.  (The city is trying to revitalize, both the levee and the downtown.)
               
              Winona is the home of Bloedow's (play-doughs) Bakery, Roadfood reviewed and recently named the best donut shop in Minnesota.
               
              Buffetbuster has reviewed them in trip reports too.  WWBBD?  He'd stop at Bloedow's!
               
              http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/local/collection_9b024ac6-eff0-11e2-82e5-0019bb2963f4.html#1
               
              A little background on the boats:
               
              http://www.thenina.com/
               
              Sadly, we had a little skullduggery while they were here, but looks like no final harm done.
               
              http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/local/article_a8cfd7f2-99fb-11df-a42a-001cc4c002e0.html
               
               
              http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/article_70ffab14-f410-11e2-989e-001a4bcf887a.html
               
               
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                joerogo

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                Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 2:32 PM (permalink)
                Paul, Don't know if they were the same ships, but I saw all three at Megan's Bay in St. Thomas years ago.  They were filming a movie.
                 
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                  tmiles

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                  Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 2:38 PM (permalink)
                  At the start of the space age in 1969 or so a professor told me that the Nina was the greatest ship of exploration ever built. It was very small but took storms well. It made 8 or 9 trips to the new world, and we can only guess what it looked like. A diary writer tells the story of a ship, thought to be the Nina, returning from it's final trip to the new world, decks awash, and sinking immediately after docking. The Pinta and Santa Maria were not so great.
                   
                  The prof got his wish when a space shuttle was named Enterprise, but he didn't get one named Nina.  
                   
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                    Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 2:59 PM (permalink)
                    fishtaco


                    Being retired from the Navy, it always amazes me as to what men sailed on many years ago. And to think we would  moan and complain if we couldn't take a shower for a couple days or the A/C was down for one. Or as always the chow!


                    Iron men and wooden ships indeed! 
                     
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                      kozel

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                      Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 3:54 PM (permalink)
                      WarToad

                      Iron men and wooden ships indeed! 

                      Like you are channeling my dad, the captain.
                       
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                        Foodbme

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                        Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 9:12 PM (permalink)
                        How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????
                         
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                          Michael Hoffman

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                          Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 9:54 PM (permalink)
                          Foodbme


                          How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

                          The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

                           
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                            CajunKing

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                            Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Fri, 10/25/13 10:45 PM (permalink)
                            So Michael...
                             
                            Where were you stationed on that ship??
                             
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                              Michael Hoffman

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                              Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sat, 10/26/13 12:14 PM (permalink)
                              I served as Chief Boatswains Mate.
                               
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                                Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sat, 10/26/13 7:31 PM (permalink)
                                I crewed on the replica of Sir Francis Drake's Golden Hinde that they made in honor of his 1573 circumnavigation of the globe. Pretty awesome. The overnight trip down the CA coast was amazing, especially going up to the crow's nest in the morning and looking DOWN at the sails with a Maltese Cross on each sail and dolphins off the bow.
                                Golden Hinde 
                                I also had a chance to tour the replica of the Endeavour, Captain Cook's vessel. What was amazing that all his discoveries, sailing around Australia, Hawaii and more, were done on a ship that was 65 feet long. To put it in perspective, that is shorter than a standard tractor-trailer rig used for long-distance trips. 
                                HMB Endeavour
                                 
                                I saw this in San Diego on Sept. 22nd. I wish I'd had time to explore it, but it made a nice photo from the deck of the cruise ship I was on. 
                                HMS Surprise

                                 
                                Of course, it was interesting to compare to the ship next to it---not a replica, but the real Star of India, the  oldest active sailing ship, from 1863. 

                                 
                                I do love ships and sailing!
                                 
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                                  lleechef

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                                  Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sat, 10/26/13 9:22 PM (permalink)
                                  Ed
                                  I love ships and sailing too.  When I lived in Boston I had a 26' Grampian.  A heavy blue-water boat that couldn't win a race if she tried but it was fun sailing her from Boston Harbor up to Marblehead or down to Scituate!
                                   
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                                    Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sat, 10/26/13 10:58 PM (permalink)
                                    Michael Hoffman


                                    Foodbme


                                    How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

                                    The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

                                    Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?
                                     
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                                      EdSails

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                                      Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 12:25 AM (permalink)
                                      Foodbme


                                      Michael Hoffman


                                      Foodbme


                                      How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

                                      The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

                                      Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?

                                       
                                      From the TVA......
                                      Navigation Aids


                                      on the Tennessee River System


                                      There are many different traffic signs along the Tennessee River waterway to help boaters navigate safely. These vary depending on whether they are located along commercial navigation or secondary channels of the Tennessee River or on tributary (storage) reservoirs.
                                      The main channel of the Tennessee River is 652 miles long. It was designed for commercial navigation and provides safe passage for barges from Knoxville, Tennessee, to the Ohio River at Paducah, Kentucky.  


                                      http://www.tva.gov/river/navigation_aids.pdf

                                       
                                      <message edited by EdSails on Sun, 10/27/13 12:26 AM>
                                       
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                                        EdSails

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                                        Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 1:00 AM (permalink)
                                        lleechef


                                        Ed
                                        I love ships and sailing too.  When I lived in Boston I had a 26' Grampian.  A heavy blue-water boat that couldn't win a race if she tried but it was fun sailing her from Boston Harbor up to Marblehead or down to Scituate!

                                         
                                        Lisa,
                                        That boat certainly had classic style. I found plenty of pics---they must have offered them with a dark hull in some years and it was a good looking boat. Must have been a blast sailing up there!
                                         
                                         
                                         
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                                          Sundancer7

                                          Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 7:07 AM (permalink)
                                          Foodbme


                                          Michael Hoffman


                                          Foodbme


                                          How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

                                          The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

                                          Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?

                                           
                                          The Tennessee River connects with the Ohio in Paducah, KY.  As EdSails indicated the Tennessee is 652 miles in Length and I reside at mile Marker 641.  The navigational aide is located directly across the river from me.
                                           
                                          I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last
                                          Paul E. Smith
                                          Knoxville, TN
                                           
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                                            Michael Hoffman

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                                            Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 10:33 AM (permalink)
                                            Foodbme


                                            Michael Hoffman


                                            Foodbme


                                            How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

                                            The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

                                            Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?

                                            At Paducah, Kentucky.
                                             
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                                              EdSails

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                                              Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 12:20 PM (permalink)
                                              Sundancer7

                                              I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last 
                                              Paul E. Smith
                                              Knoxville, TN

                                               
                                              You know I disagree with you on that, Paul. My Hunter 25.5 won a lot of races. Someday we're going to have to find an old Hunter some place, get together, and see how fast we go!

                                               
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                                                lleechef

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                                                Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 12:32 PM (permalink)
                                                With Ed at the helm you two will be flying! 
                                                 
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                                                  Sundancer7

                                                  Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 1:04 PM (permalink)
                                                  EdSails


                                                  Sundancer7

                                                  I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last 
                                                  Paul E. Smith
                                                  Knoxville, TN


                                                  You know I disagree with you on that, Paul. My Hunter 25.5 won a lot of races. Someday we're going to have to find an old Hunter some place, get together, and see how fast we go!


                                                   
                                                  EdSails:  As I recall the Hunter 25.5 was a total redesign?  Much different and more sleek than my 25 and obviously much faster.  Then again it could have been the sailor of my 25???
                                                   
                                                  Paul E. Smith
                                                  Knoxville, TN

                                                   
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                                                    EdSails

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                                                    Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 5:56 PM (permalink)
                                                    Sundancer7


                                                    EdSails


                                                    Sundancer7

                                                    I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last 
                                                    Paul E. Smith
                                                    Knoxville, TN


                                                    You know I disagree with you on that, Paul. My Hunter 25.5 won a lot of races. Someday we're going to have to find an old Hunter some place, get together, and see how fast we go!



                                                    EdSails:  As I recall the Hunter 25.5 was a total redesign?  Much different and more sleek than my 25 and obviously much faster.  Then again it could have been the sailor of my 25???

                                                    Paul E. Smith
                                                    Knoxville, TN

                                                     
                                                    Ok, I'll go with the redesign. Mine was the first one with a lead keel and it really held good even under pushing the sails. But I bet you're fast on your powerboat!
                                                     
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                                                      Sundancer7

                                                      Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 6:47 PM (permalink)
                                                      EdSails:  The SeaRay that I owned and sold was a 27 with a 455 engine that got three gas stations per mile.  I bought it new and factory delivered.  I had it for several years and the 455 engine was a cold mother.  Started hard, smoked lither a mother and ran like a top.  After my wife passed, I was tired with keeping it clean and waxed.  I bought a 21 foot Regal with instant start.  Easy to clean and will do about 55 MPH and fuel consumption is much much less.  I keep it on a lift and out of the water and it is waxed and cleaned two times per year.
                                                       
                                                      Much more skill is in sailing but the Regal is so easy to handle.  My grandboys use it for skiing.  I rarely use it.  As a matter of fact I have had it out 0 times this year although I have had it waxed and cleaned and winterized already.  Come on winter.
                                                       
                                                      Paul E. Smith
                                                      knoxville, TN
                                                       
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                                                        EdSails

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                                                        Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 11:38 PM (permalink)
                                                        Well we are supposedly getting snow in the mountains here tomorrow. Guess that means winter...until it goes up to 80 degrees in mid November!
                                                         
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                                                          EdSails

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                                                          Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Sun, 10/27/13 11:38 PM (permalink)
                                                          Well we are supposedly getting snow in the mountains here tomorrow. Guess that means winter...until it goes up to 80 degrees in mid November!
                                                           
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                                                            tmiles

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                                                            Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River Thu, 10/31/13 1:58 PM (permalink)
                                                            We once had an ODay 25 of the keel centerboard design. It did not sail as well as the keel version, but I could often find a place to anchor, in shallow water, where others could not. My best place, though, was the former Coast Guard dock at Cuttyhunk. I had permission to use it, because my Marine Corps reserve unit did work with the Coasties. The dock has since been sold, and is now private.
                                                             
                                                            Sometimes, big expensive boats would tailgate me into foggy Cuttyhunk, thinking that I had a keel. I had loran, and knew where I was (sort of), but a 24 inch draft boat is not a good pathfinder for a 5 or 6 ft draft power yacht.
                                                             
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