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EdSails

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Chez McD's Sat, 10/2/04 4:37 PM (permalink)
 
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    marberthenad

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    RE: Chez McD's Sat, 10/2/04 7:50 PM (permalink)
    Good quote from the story:

    "There is not more fat in a McDonald's hamburger than there is in a cheesecake, or full-butter croissant, or a luxury pastry by (leading French patisseur) Pierre Herme."

    He shrugs off criticism in the movie, "Supersize Me," that McDonald's foods are sugar-packed and bad for one's health.

    "No one forces a consumer to eat three hamburgers with three serves of fries and two liters of Coke," he said.
     
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      chezkatie

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      RE: Chez McD's Sat, 10/2/04 9:35 PM (permalink)
      Pichot, who became a chef when his earlier hopes to become a priest or a comedian failed to materialize, wants to use the flavors encountered on his travels to expand McDonald's menus.


      Well, now his hopes to become a chef have failed too!
       
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        lleechef

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        RE: Chez McD's Sat, 10/2/04 9:47 PM (permalink)
        I find it hard to believe that anyone that worked at La Tour d'Argent or the Royal Monceau would now be with McD's. Oh, maybe he was only the Potato Boiler at these prestigious places!
         
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          leslie1787

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          RE: Chez McD's Sun, 10/3/04 2:40 AM (permalink)
          Ah, zee French. They are a funny, funny people.
           
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            ConeyIslandLou

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            RE: Chez McD's Sun, 10/3/04 6:57 AM (permalink)
            actually Mickey D's has employed many many 'real' chefs in this matter....this is only the first guy to admit it in public!
             
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              tiki

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              RE: Chez McD's Sun, 10/3/04 9:23 AM (permalink)
              as a longtime "cook"---this ,once again confirms my opinion of the word---"chef"--i have long been of the mind that "cook" is to "chef" as "lover" is to "hooker"!

              Lleechef and Chef Susan---no offence meant--its just that as a boy i knew a few "chefs"---today they seem to be hiding in every nook and cranny of the universe!!Personally i'd prefer working under a chef that worked for that title by spending god only knows how many years doing slave labor as an apprentice,or at the elbow of their grandmother!!---then with a 90 day wonder grad of any number of "culinary institutes" that have sprung up all over this country!The word "chef' is not what it once was!

              "Pichot, who became a chef when his earlier hopes to become a priest or a comedian failed to materialize, wants to use the flavors encountered on his travels to expand McDonald's menus"----Im not surprised that food was the mans THIRD choice---a true chef doesnt CHOOSE to cook --he/she-HAS to cook!!!!and doesn't cook to make a living.but rather LIVES to cook!

              Ok--i will now get off this soapbox and go back to my morning coffee>
               
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                Goose

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                RE: Chez McD's Mon, 10/4/04 1:47 PM (permalink)
                Kind of like M. Pepin working for Howard Johnson's, yes?
                 
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                  michaelgemmell

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                  RE: Chez McD's Mon, 10/4/04 6:43 PM (permalink)
                  "Chef" or "cook"? A chef is a professional, and he or she cooks at home for family and friends--if you can stand doing more after all those hours at work. I can't fathom wanting to be a chef, but my friends tell me I cook well enough. No way, my nephew is a chef, and he's enslaved to his job. It's all about the attitude, which, thanks, very much, I'd like to keep to the minimum. A chef must be rational, but at home cooking is full of emotion, including sometimes, "How can I get dinner on the table with minimal effort?"

                  This guy is a chef. He made a rational decision to make a huge salary and not have to work restaurant hours. Well, really, if someone offered me, probably 7 figures, to do what he does, I'd get rational, be a "chef," and, as Liberace always said, "cry all the way to the bank." Ultimately, yawn. Today's dish about Sir Elton John is funnier than this one.
                   
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                    Grampy

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                    RE: Chez McD's Mon, 10/4/04 7:05 PM (permalink)
                    I would never sell my priciples -- ever! Except for a lot of money.
                     
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                      zataar

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                      RE: Chez McD's Mon, 10/4/04 8:47 PM (permalink)
                      Gosh, whether to be offended or not about the "chef" title... I've worked for a number years as an executive chef, working my way up from pantry, pastry, saute, grill, dish, you name it. I've been at every station. What I've come to as a conclusion is, is that experience is as valid as culinary school. I've worked with CIA graduates who were as slow as molasses and worked with some who were brilliant. It all comes down to this for me: It's food, and only food, something that a whole lot of people in this world do not have enough of, and something that the rest of us have far too much of. But working with it and eating it does indeed define who I am and what I care about.
                       
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                        lleechef

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                        RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 11:42 AM (permalink)
                        Unfortunately in today's world of Iron Chefs, experience doesn't mean a thing when you're looking for an exec. chef position. It's all about the degree which now costs as much as Harvard!
                         
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                          zataar

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                          RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 1:15 PM (permalink)
                          Ileechef, I totally agree. Most of the "iron chefs" don't even respect any wisdom that comes from experience such as ours. It's pretty sad, and if I won the lottery, I'd probably quit cooking for a living, but never quit cooking for pleasure. The restaurant world has changed so much in the last few years. I'm glad I was part of it in the 70s, 80s and 90s when it was exciting, creative and rewarding.
                           
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                            lleechef

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                            RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 1:22 PM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by zataar

                            I'm glad I was part of it in the 70s, 80s and 90s when it was exciting, creative and rewarding.

                            It was I must've missed that part!
                             
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                              zataar

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                              RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 1:26 PM (permalink)
                              Thanks Ileechef, I was having a pretty cynical day and you made me laugh!
                               
                              #15
                                Tony Bad

                                RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 1:28 PM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by marberthenad

                                Good quote from the story:

                                "There is not more fat in a McDonald's hamburger than there is in a cheesecake, or full-butter croissant, or a luxury pastry by (leading French patisseur) Pierre Herme."

                                He shrugs off criticism in the movie, "Supersize Me," that McDonald's foods are sugar-packed and bad for one's health.

                                "No one forces a consumer to eat three hamburgers with three serves of fries and two liters of Coke," he said.


                                But isn't all of this true?

                                Not sure if you think it is funny or if you agree.
                                 
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                                  rbpalmer

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                                  RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 2:20 PM (permalink)
                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by marberthenad

                                  Good quote from the story:

                                  "There is not more fat in a McDonald's hamburger than there is in a cheesecake, or full-butter croissant, or a luxury pastry by (leading French patisseur) Pierre Herme."

                                  He shrugs off criticism in the movie, "Supersize Me," that McDonald's foods are sugar-packed and bad for one's health.


                                  But none of those things are good for you, and at least with the cheesecake, croissant or luxury pastry you get something delicious with you fat and calories.
                                   
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                                    lleechef

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                                    RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 2:36 PM (permalink)
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by zataar

                                    Thanks Ileechef, I was having a pretty cynical day and you made me laugh!

                                    My pleasure! Us chefs gotta stick together cuz nobody else can stand us for very long!
                                     
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                                      Zman

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                                      RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 9:16 PM (permalink)
                                      My pleasure! Us chefs gotta stick together cuz nobody else can stand us for very long!

                                      You got that right, Chef!
                                       
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                                        zataar

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                                        RE: Chez McD's Tue, 10/5/04 9:42 PM (permalink)
                                        quote:
                                        Originally posted by Zman

                                        My pleasure! Us chefs gotta stick together cuz nobody else can stand us for very long!

                                        You got that right, Chef!
                                        You guys are great! It is so true . I was told that just today...
                                         
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                                          lleechef

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                                          RE: Chez McD's Wed, 10/6/04 12:58 AM (permalink)
                                          Hey, hey, Zman, I resemble that remark!!!!

                                          Has the mysterious poster formerly known as clo**** suddenly re-appeared as Goose or is he really Zman?????
                                           
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                                            Edwaste

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                                            RE: Chez McD's Wed, 10/6/04 9:19 AM (permalink)
                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by pdxyyz

                                            A fat laden, artery busting slab of beef with cheese served in what would pass for a third rate oil change place rates as fine food on this site, but McDonalds gets roasted for serving the same 1500 calorie gut bomb.

                                            You don't like it don't eat it, but don't rank McD's for a lack of healthy choices when the majority of food on this site doesn't rate all that high the health meter.



                                            True,
                                            But if I'm going to clog my arteries, I would like to do that with some food that was original, and had something for my taste buds.

                                            McD's emphasis is on consistency, blandness, inoffesive to the most consumers, and meeting the needs of the lowest common denominator.
                                            You can go to a McD's in California and it will taste just like a burger from a McD's in Connecticut. You get no sense of traveling or local culture by eating in a McD. There are no pleasant suprises, no real taste except sweetness and fat to meet man's primal cravings for instant gratification.


                                             
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                                              jmckee

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                                              RE: Chez McD's Wed, 10/6/04 9:56 AM (permalink)
                                              Ah, ze McDuck a McOrange is particularly good today, followed by ze Pommes De Terre McRonaldoise, garnised weeth petit McPois, accompanied by a salade McVert avec le McZesty Vinaigrette. To dreenk? Ze Chateau McRothschild, le supair sized. Dessert is a lovely Chocolate McMousse.....
                                               
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                                                EdSails

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                                                RE: Chez McD's Wed, 10/6/04 12:17 PM (permalink)
                                                quote:
                                                Originally posted by jmckee

                                                Ah, ze McDuck a McOrange is particularly good today, followed by ze Pommes De Terre McRonaldoise, garnised weeth petit McPois, accompanied by a salade McVert avec le McZesty Vinaigrette. To dreenk? Ze Chateau McRothschild, le supair sized. Dessert is a lovely Chocolate McMousse.....


                                                Now a Super-sized Chateau McRothschild sounds just about right to me......
                                                 
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