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tuke

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official name Thu, 06/22/06 10:17 PM (permalink)
What is the official name of the clear broth non-tomato based style of Clam Chowder?
 
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    Tony Bad

    RE: official name Thu, 06/22/06 10:56 PM (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by tuke

    What is the official name of the clear broth non-tomato based style of Clam Chowder?


    Not sure if it is "official", but I have always heard it called Rhode Island Clear Clam Chowder.

    I had a fine version here:

    http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Writeup.aspx?ReviewID=251&RefID=251

    Evelyn's burned last year, not sure if they have rebuilt yet.
     
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      GordonW

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      RE: official name Thu, 06/22/06 11:22 PM (permalink)
      In addition to Rhode Island, I've also seen references to a Maryland clam chowder, with a chicken stock base; and Hatteras clam chowder, with a clam broth base. Both with no tomato or dairy. Like Tony Bad, don't know if they're official.
       
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        mayor al

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        RE: official name Fri, 06/23/06 2:27 PM (permalink)

        I don't question Gordons comments, but the only one I have heard for the description you gave (clear etc) has been Rhode Island 'Style'. Michael Stern refers to it as such in a couple of the Roadfood Books. ( I really miss the Shore Dinner Hall in the Rocky Point amusement park near Warwick.)
         
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          Ashphalt

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          RE: official name Fri, 06/23/06 2:39 PM (permalink)
          Having grown up in Warwick, where many high school classmates got summer jobs at Rocky Point (actually in Warwick) and at the Shore Dinner Hall I won't repeat any of the legends of what the kitchen staff would do to that chowder.

          As for official name, in Rhode Island it's traditionally "chowder."
           
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            Michael Hoffman

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            RE: official name Fri, 06/23/06 3:09 PM (permalink)
            quote:
            Originally posted by tuke

            What is the official name of the clear broth non-tomato based style of Clam Chowder?

            I'll ignore the suggestion that there's any such thing as a tomato-based clam chowder, and just say that I've heard the Rhode Island style clear chowder called lumpy horse-piss, but whenever I've had it it was just called clam chowder.
             
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              lunamoth

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              RE: official name Fri, 06/23/06 4:05 PM (permalink)
              Tony Bad: Evelyn's in RI has been rebuilt
               
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                GordonW

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                RE: official name Fri, 06/23/06 6:06 PM (permalink)
                quote:
                Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen


                I don't question Gordons comments, but the only one I have heard for the description you gave (clear etc) has been Rhode Island 'Style'. Michael Stern refers to it as such in a couple of the Roadfood Books. ( I really miss the Shore Dinner Hall in the Rocky Point amusement park near Warwick.)


                Actually, Hatteras (or Carolina) chowder is the same as Rhode Island chowder -- basically, some kind of salt pork/bacon, clams, potatos and maybe onions, broth, and whatever odds and ends a particular recipe calls for. Hatteras also has a fish chowder (usually called striper stew) along the same lines -- layer fish chunks, potato, onion in a pot, add broth and salt, cook and eat. I expect these recipes derive from no fresh dairy being available back then.

                I won't vouch for Maryland chowder -- I've never eaten it, only read about it.
                 
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                  Tony Bad

                  RE: official name Fri, 06/23/06 7:43 PM (permalink)
                  quote:
                  Originally posted by lunamoth

                  Tony Bad: Evelyn's in RI has been rebuilt


                  That is great to hear! I was wondering if they would come back.

                  Thanks for the info.
                   
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                    shortchef

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                    RE: official name Fri, 06/23/06 9:53 PM (permalink)
                    I always have seen it referred to as "Manhattan Clam Chowder." I don't think that the Manhattan tribe would have enjoyed it. I know I don't.
                     
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                      Tedbear

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                      RE: official name Sat, 06/24/06 12:29 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by shortchef

                      I always have seen it referred to as "Manhattan Clam Chowder." I don't think that the Manhattan tribe would have enjoyed it. I know I don't.



                      Every Manhattan Clam Chowder that I have ever eaten was a tomato-based concoction. Since the OP specified a non-tomato based, clear broth, I don't think that he/she was referring to Manhattan Clam Chowder.
                       
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                        roossy90

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                          xannie_01

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                          RE: official name Sun, 06/25/06 5:44 PM (permalink)
                          congratulations roossy for becomming a filet mignon!
                          maybe now you'll be treated better than a piece of meat.
                           
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                            mr chips

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                            RE: official name Sun, 06/25/06 8:26 PM (permalink)
                            Let me add my congrats as well, Roossy. Keep the faith. I always enjoy hearing from you.
                             
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                              essvee

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                              RE: official name Sun, 06/25/06 9:00 PM (permalink)
                              Rhode Island style chowder is the finest chowder known to man. It truly tastes of the sea. I posted my old man's recipe for it here acouple two three years ago. If anyone has a desire for the recipe, I'll post it again. True bliss.
                               
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                                salsailsa

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                                RE: official name Sun, 06/25/06 11:55 PM (permalink)
                                I'd like the recipe essvee. Thank you for posting the link Roossy90.


                                Sorry I spelled your name wrong
                                 
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                                  roadtripxx

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                                  RE: official name Mon, 06/26/06 6:39 AM (permalink)
                                  nice roossy90.... thanks for the link
                                   
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                                    roossy90

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                                    RE: official name Mon, 06/26/06 4:56 PM (permalink)
                                    Thanks everyone...
                                    As long as they put some 50/50 blend of ketchup on me, I dont mind being treated like a piece of meat.
                                    (although, I do prefer if you use heinz 57 on me instead-and uh, Medium rare please-I burn easy)
                                     
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                                      Jimeats

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                                      RE: official name Tue, 06/27/06 5:53 AM (permalink)
                                      We called it Chesapeake Bay clam chowder. It covered a multitude of questions and encompased a large area. Chow Jim
                                       
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