The Travelin Man
Again, my point is that "locals" aren't the people writing reviews on Yelp. If the bulk of the people from Boston who are eating at Allie's are weekenders (and isn't that just really another word for tourist?), then there should still be a HUGE number of people eating at Allie's - both during the week - and when those darn weekenders come rolling through town. These are the people who are NOT writing reviews on Yelp - as evidenced by the THREE reviews on Yelp for Allie's.
Whose to say that locals aren't the people that are writing reviews on Yelp. I'm not sure what evidence you have to support your opinion. I checked a less touristy choice in Philly- Lorenzo's Pizza, it's actually in a heavily touristy area, the Italian Market- only 12 reviews- 10 out of 12 reviews were local.
Using your argument about weekend tourists, I guess you can say that someone from Boca going down for a meal in Miami's Little Havana is "a tourist". Someone from Laguna Beach CA going out for a night on the town in LA's Sunset Strip, is a tourist. Even someone from Sayville or Patchogue NY wanting to head into NYC for a day is a tourist. I can assure you the driving time to head out these destinations are
90 minutes or longer. I guess if these are tourists in these specific instances I mentioned then I'll agree with your assessment.
The Travelin Man
Oh, Open-Minded One...not all of Florida is Orlando and Disney. I do not live in a touristy area - with the lone exception being KSC on launch day.
The whole florida coast line is flooded with snowbirds and tourists, mind you some areas moreso than others. You don't think your area has gone through a mini population explosion over the last decade or two? Who do you think has moved there- out of staters- including you! Yes, but I'll agree not all of Florida is touristy- Ocala and even Jacksonville for example (but that's open to opinion), however St Augustine a half hour away is.
The Travelin Man
Our local airport did just start marketing flights as being to "Orlando/Hooterville" - but, I would no more consider myself a "local" of the "metro" Orlando area than a Revere resident would consider himself to be a "local" to North Kingstown, RI.
Listen I'm not going to argue with Rand McNally regarding what area is considered a metro area or not That's why they make the $ putting out the atlases. I don't think there are specific parameters defining who may or may not consider themselves a local to a specific region.
The Travelin Man
Trust me. I know exactly what you're trying to do. You are trying to tell the residents of some place how their place REALLY is - from your outsider's eyes. I don't even have a problem with that. I just wish you would bring a stronger argument than the percentage of Yelp reviewers who are non-residents.
Yes, many times an outsider
can bring some objectivity
that a local may deliberately or unintentionally fail to see. In a way the Sterns have done the same thing in their books. I remember bringing in a copy of the Stern's 2002 edition of Roadfood to my old office, and one my coworkers, Cheryl a born and bred Rhode Islander who has barely ever left the state couldn't believe the restaurants that were included and the ones that the Sterns's didnt. I asked her which restaurants should they have submitted, she responded "Wes' Rib House"
and "Mr Taco"
....Well she's a local so she MUST BE RIGHT
the Stern's put the wrong restaurants in the roadfood book.
I can say that there are many tourists who go to the Rhode Island clam shacks. I'm sure someone is going to dispute this and and say that according to their sister in law's friend's cousin, who lives in Rhode Island this is wrong. But I'm a local, therefore I must be right.
There are many, many many many topics on the forum I steer clear from. Why?- because I don't know enough or anything about them. I don't know if a 22 caliber is better than a 42 caliber. I don't know if oak wood is better for smoking meat than hickory. I don't know if one German Restaurant in Milwaukee is better than the other one. But if I'm knowlegable about something and I know I'm right about something, at least give me credit where credit is due because I'm gonna write about it and express my opinion.
You're right theres much more to this than a local or non local yelp review, although I still think thats a fairly good measurement if there's lots of reviews.
I rattled off some TV shows for a reason- these shows mean alot regarding pop culture, the media and how they have effected roadfood. I had a long talk with my buddy Mike about this- he's the Cliff Clavin of pop culture, and a teacher and although he's not exactly a roadfood enthusiast he made an excellent point.
I'm going to start a separate thread. http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/Pop-Culture-The-Media-and-the-profound-effect-it-has-on-Roadfood-trends-m515463.aspx
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