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ken8038

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Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 8:42 AM (permalink)
Just read on line that my favorite Manhattan Hot Dog joint, Gray's Papaya on 8th Avenue, has closed. I know there are differing opinions on the dogs at this place but I always found them hot, fresh, and tasty, not to mention a great spot for people watching. Back in the day it was always a great stop for me on my way to Penn Station after an evening of after-work "Happy (Several) Hours".
 
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    seafarer john

    Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 8:56 AM (permalink)
    Ken: An earlier generation of us "Happy hour" patrons used to favor Nedick's . Looking back, I think their hot dog and juice were awful - but who cares after bounteous portions of ardent spirits after work?
     
    Cheers, John 
     
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      Tony Bad

      Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 9:46 AM (permalink)
      I enjoyed Nedick's years back, or at least thought I did, but a few years back they reopened one in Penn Station, promising it was as good as original. It wasn't very good, so perhaps like Ken and John, my memories were clouded by other factors.
       
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        billyboy

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        Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 10:10 AM (permalink)
        Personally I won't miss that location as I never had a good dog from there.  They tended to be overdone and somewhat shriveled as a result and I've had a few stale buns from there.  My favorite location has always been the one at 6th Avenue & 8th Street in Greenwich Village.
         
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          Michael Hoffman

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          Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 10:26 AM (permalink)
          Nah, Nedick's used to be good. The Nedicks in Grand Central was always my first stop when I took the train in, and my last stop when heading back. I've been told the new version doesn't come close.
           
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            Twinwillow

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            Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 10:33 AM (permalink)
            The best thing about Nedicks was the orange drink.
             
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              BT

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              Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 12:36 PM (permalink)
              I never tried Gray's Papaya but there are other "papayas".  Did Gray's serve Sabrett dogs like Chelsea Papaya, the one with which I am most familiar (23rd & 7th Ave)?
               

               
              #7
                Tony Bad

                Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 4:48 PM (permalink)
                Twinwillow


                The best thing about Nedicks was the orange drink.

                 
                That was good! My dad used to get us to behave while doing boring errands with promises of a nice Nedick's orange drink. I can still see it cascading down the sides of those glass coolers with all the condensation running down the sides on hot days. I dreamed of having one of those coolers at home when I was a boy.
                 
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                  John Fox

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                  Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Wed, 03/2/11 8:23 PM (permalink)
                  BT


                  I never tried Gray's Papaya but there are other "papayas".  Did Gray's serve Sabrett dogs like Chelsea Papaya, the one with which I am most familiar (23rd & 7th Ave)?


                   
                  Yes, Gray's, Papaya King, and the other knockoffs serve Sabrett beef franks. Most serve the natural casing 10 to a lb, but one of the knockoffs I've been to, either Mike's, Chelsea, or another one serves the skinless dog. I don't have a preference between Papaya King and Gray's. Both use the same dog, but one could be better than another on any given day. Maybe the bun falls apart at one; maybe the dog is fresher at another.
                   
                  For this type of dog let me sugest two places in Jersey that are consistently good. Papaya King in Clifton, where the dogs are always fresh and the owner is there. And Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City.

                   
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                    DougS

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                    Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Tue, 03/15/11 9:22 AM (permalink)
                    Sounds like a lot of different Papaya places......were they a chain?
                     
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                      doggydaddy

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                      Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Tue, 03/15/11 10:51 AM (permalink)
                       
                      Papaya describes the type of establishment and the food served. I was more of a Orange Julius kind of guy in Times Square...
                      Manhattan has many Ray's pizza places. They are related only by virtue of the style of pizza they serve.
                      Another example is in the S.F Bay Area where there are many restaurants named Joe's. None are related, but the portions are great.
                       
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                      #11
                        Foodosaurus

                        Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Tue, 03/15/11 12:58 PM (permalink)
                        billyboy


                        Personally I won't miss that location as I never had a good dog from there.  They tended to be overdone and somewhat shriveled as a result and I've had a few stale buns from there.  My favorite location has always been the one at 6th Avenue & 8th Street in Greenwich Village.

                         
                        The Greenwich Village location is my favorite as well.
                         
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                          MiamiDon

                          Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Tue, 03/15/11 1:35 PM (permalink)
                          DougS


                          Sounds like a lot of different Papaya places......were they a chain?


                          In the beginning, there was Papaya King, founded in 1931 by a greek named Gus Poulos.  It was a juice bar, but they soon added hot dogs.  The original is still open at 3rd Ave & 86th St.  The family has opened and closed other locations over the years, and tried to franchise it.  From what I can tell, there is another location in NYC on 125th St.  There also is one in Clifton, NJ, and in Portland, ME.  All the others are rip-offs of the name.  From what I can tell, Gray's Papaya was started in 1973, and currently has 2 locations in NYC.
                           
                          Original Papaya King


                           
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                            David_NYC

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                            Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Thu, 03/17/11 6:40 AM (permalink)
                            Tony Bad


                            I enjoyed Nedick's years back, or at least thought I did, but a few years back they reopened one in Penn Station, promising it was as good as original. It wasn't very good, so perhaps like Ken and John, my memories were clouded by other factors.

                            I can now confirm that those Nedick's opened a few years ago by Riese have all been replaced by Nathan's franchises.

                             
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                              jdog

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                              Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Fri, 04/1/11 5:08 AM (permalink)
                              I went to Papaya King in Clifton a few months after they opened. Worst chilidog I ever had. Stale bun, the chili tasted canned, and the fries were worse than frozen ones I've taken out of a toaster oven. I read somewhere here, that they have a new owner. Are they any better than they were?
                               
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                                Benzee

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                                Re:Gray's Papaya in NYC closed Fri, 04/1/11 3:35 PM (permalink)
                                Hey J Dog ,
                                We visited them  in Clifton on the 7th Annual Jersey Hot Dog Tour last sept . New owners and no complaints here .
                                Miami Don , If you ever saw a big guy in uniform getting out of a police scooter going into Papaya in NYC  over the
                                 past twenty yrs , good bet it was me (:
                                Benzee
                                 
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