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Schmelly

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Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Mon, 08/29/11 11:00 PM (permalink)
Just curious what everyone prefers for interior lighting and why ?
 
Is general fluorescent lighting the way to go ? Seems light fluorescent lights are wicked bright.
 
Do you need lights on your hood for above the griddle ?
 
What do you think of track lighting ? Would that be too dark for a trailer at night ?
 
BTW: My interior will be almost all white.
 
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    Barbeque barn

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    Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Tue, 08/30/11 6:43 AM (permalink)
    I use rope lighting and able to add more just by screwing more together as needed. Only 55 watts for 36 ft and zip tied up on the top rail. Have pictures posted on my post. Mike
     
    #2
      Buck & Vi's

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      Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Tue, 08/30/11 7:36 PM (permalink)
      my grill does not have any lights but i wish it did
       
      #3
        CharlesHoffie

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        Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Fri, 09/20/13 7:34 AM (permalink)
        When your walls are white even small amount of light also looks bright. So I think that you must not go for very bright lights.

        <message edited by CharlesHoffie on Mon, 10/21/13 1:00 AM>
         
        #4
          edwmax

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          Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Fri, 09/20/13 9:55 AM (permalink)
          In general you want about 70 footcandles for a kitchen.   ... In the back of Grander catalog there is a guide on how to calculate the spacing and number of fixtures & type needed.  ... It has been a while since I use it.  I'm checking to see if the reference is available from their website.    
           
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            edwmax

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            Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Fri, 09/20/13 12:11 PM (permalink)
            Here is a link to an online lighting calculator. Just enter footcandles, room size and ceiling height.
            http://www.a-wall.com/light-fixture-calculator.php
             
            TOO much light is as bad as too little lighting.
             
            #6
              BelCibo

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              Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Fri, 09/20/13 4:53 PM (permalink)
              We have two lights on our 8 foot hood, never have used them.
              16ft kitchen with two 4ft t10's and two 3ft.  Gobs of light.
               
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                Curb Hopper

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                Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Fri, 09/20/13 7:52 PM (permalink)
                You gotta look at it like this...stay away from the no no stuff for your health department. Mine doesn't look at foot candles. They worry about physical contamination. Shatterproof and working order did it for me today.

                I used (3) led bar fixtures from Hamilton marine. One over sinks, one at front of hood and one over prep area. $100ea 12v dc powered by deep cycle 80amp marine battery. I have ss walls.
                 
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                  RodBangkok

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                  Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Fri, 09/20/13 8:43 PM (permalink)
                  For flexibility use 12 volt led.  You can then layout a switching circuit so you can use a battery isolator to run lighting off an auxiliary battery, and also install a line voltage to 12 VDC power supply.  This will allow you to use power from a land AC connection or generator.  Just takes a few switches or contactor relays to choose between the types of input power.  The power savings is huge with led's but the initial cost can be a bit high.  You can also easily find dimmers now for LED lighting, especially 12V.
                   
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                    Pacmob

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                    Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sat, 09/21/13 10:24 PM (permalink)
                    I only work on trucks these days.
                     
                    Typically if a truck doesn't have existing 12V cab/rear lighting we will add it on so folks can see what they are doing in the dark if needed without having the generator system online.
                     
                    Other then that, we never use bar fluorescent lights, they are way to harsh I think. Things give me headaches. Home depot makes a mini 12-22" enclosed fluorescent light that works great without being to harsh, and it is wall mounted and most of them can be plugged into a standard outlet.
                     
                    For out main 120V system we have recently switched over to lights from Home Depot or Lowes that look identical to a restaurant hood light. They are designed to be interior or exterior, are waterproof, can be set to a dimmer of needed, and can fit any standard light bulb.
                     
                    Will post pictures as soon as I meet the reqs.
                     
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                      Jasper1

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                      Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 10:22 AM (permalink)
                      I too have questions about interior lighting.
                      I'm doing a mobile Gelato trailer (gelato case doesn't work in a food truck) and Wells Cargo is building the 16ft trailer and the lights they have are the normal fluorescent ones and they're $100 a piece and I don't want the standard fluorescent look and want a more modern look.
                      The trailer walls are white and I wanted some kind of LED lights.
                      We want a cool retro look and thought about those Edison lights inside mason jars.
                      We bought some jars and bulbs but don't think they will work, I think even if we had 8 of them it wouldn't be enough light.
                      I found some low profile round LED lights but at 2.5" depth they can't be flush mounted to the ceiling. There's only about 1.5" gap between the roof and ceiling.

                      If anyone has any ideas what to use for enough light I would really appreciate it.
                      The Wells Cargo place said they can build a box about 2ft by 8ft and 3-4" thick or whatever size I want and put some can LED"s in it.
                      If we can't figure a better idea then we'll probably have to do that.
                      I want the lights on a dimmer switch or if not dimmable then have the lights on two switches.

                      The trailer is going to have a big open concept feel. It will have frameless windows so from 10ft away it will look like two big huge windows.
                       
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                        Pacmob

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                        Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 10:47 AM (permalink)
                        Go like us on facebook, might get a few ideas.
                         

                         
                        Oh, and a Gelato case would work awesome in a cart. Just gotta go to the right builder.
                         
                        I have a side project I put on hold till the spring that involves a deli case in a VW bus.
                         
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                          Jasper1

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                          Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 2:09 PM (permalink)
                          thanks I'll look at the Facebook page. Such a lot okay sweet not work in the truck because the truck floor is 32 inches high and the trailer floor is only 18 inches high
                           
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                            Jasper1

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                            Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 6:09 PM (permalink)
                            I did see a light on your Facebook that I liked and thought of before.
                            The type that has a metal cage like they have in a walk in cooler.
                            Possibly using 2 or 3 of those and if they could be dimmable would be great.
                            Any ideas where to find something like that.
                             
                            #14
                              Dr of BBQ

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                              Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 7:07 PM (permalink)
                              The type that has a metal cage like they have in a walk in cooler.
                               
                              I'd call or shoot a note to the Dr of BBQ he has a case of them in his garage. LOL Had to buy a case to get a deal.
                               
                              The Dr of BBQ
                              2709 S 6th Street
                              Springfield Illinois 62703
                              WWW.DrofBBQ.com
                              Jack@DrofBBQ.com
                              217-744-9999 BBQ Stand  Tues thru Sat 10:00 am until 6:00 pm
                              217-529-9000 Cell but I seldom use it, and never on weekends
                               
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                                Jasper1

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                                Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 8:13 PM (permalink)
                                awesome, thank you very much
                                 
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                                  Pacmob

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                                  Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 8:59 PM (permalink)
                                  Oddly enough, we buy them at Home Depot. Lowe's has one that is similar as well.
                                   
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                                    Jasper1

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                                    Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Sun, 09/22/13 9:59 PM (permalink)
                                    Wow. Thanks.
                                    I've never seen anything like those at Lowes or Home Depot I will go take a look thank you very much.
                                    do you know what kind of lights they are called?
                                     
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                                      Jasper1

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                                      Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Mon, 09/23/13 12:35 AM (permalink)
                                      Went to Home Depot and bought the lights.
                                      These things are awesome. I'll put 4 of them in the 16ft trailer. Bought 60 watt LED soft white dimmable bulbs.
                                      Thank you so much, one more thing checked off the list.
                                      Great deal for $30
                                      <message edited by Jasper1 on Mon, 09/23/13 9:07 AM>
                                       
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                                        Pacmob

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                                        Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Mon, 09/23/13 11:25 AM (permalink)
                                        Welcome.
                                         
                                        Pretty cool huh? They look and function just like 200 dollar hood lights for a fraction of the price. Fully enclosed and sealed to keep the health department happy.
                                         
                                        Keep a eye on our page, can find loads of inspiration and ideas by watching how we do things. We are notoriously inventive when it comes to saving our clients money.
                                         
                                        We are pretty much the cheapest truck builder in the Northwest for a reason, not out to make tons of money, our focus is more towards helping folks become independent.
                                         
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                                          Jasper1

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                                          Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Mon, 09/23/13 5:02 PM (permalink)
                                          For sure, thank you very much.
                                          We've spent two months of lighting and still couldn't settle on something. And after your suggestion, that's a huge weight lifted off us.
                                          I'm buying 4 of them for the 15ft truck and also the LED bulbs and will send them to Wells Cargo and hopefully they won't complain about putting them in.
                                          Thanks again.
                                          We paid $375 for the logo design, now it's time to design the wrap and that's $3k. This Gelato trailer is going to be about $35k when completed and hopefully it will stand out :)
                                          Now trying to find a good electric 14ft retractable full cassette awning. Found the $4k one's but i want to be in the $2k range. I found this one and will use it if I can't find better. 
                                          Playing with ideas for bulb lights for the end of the awning http://www.awntech.com/xcart/hampton-retractable-awning.html
                                           
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                                            Pacmob

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                                            Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Mon, 09/23/13 5:43 PM (permalink)
                                            I can do ya one better on that.
                                             
                                            Go google Dometic automatic RV awnings. Dometic makes a series of awning that are fully enclosed and operate with the push of a button. Last one we installed was like 800 bucks for some odd 10-14ft of shade. Way more cost efficient, and designed to be on the side of a moving vehicle/trailer.
                                             
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                                              Jasper1

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                                              Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Mon, 09/23/13 5:49 PM (permalink)
                                              Thanks.
                                              I looked at them and they didnt have any colors that looked good to me. I either wamt black amd white striped or a solid color and Dometic didnt have any.
                                              The 9500E is the only scissor kind they have and didn't have any colors I liked.
                                              <message edited by Jasper1 on Mon, 09/23/13 5:52 PM>
                                               
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                                                chefbuba

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                                                Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Mon, 09/23/13 8:04 PM (permalink)
                                                $35 grand for a trailer with a freezer in it to sell ice cream?...Wow
                                                 
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                                                  daddywoofdawg

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                                                  Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Tue, 09/24/13 1:03 AM (permalink)
                                                  I bet you could ask them if they could get the color you want.If the project is sold why wouldn't get the color you want.
                                                   
                                                  #25
                                                    Jasper1

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                                                    Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Tue, 09/24/13 12:48 PM (permalink)
                                                    The distributor I talked to said what's on the website are the only colors offered. maybe I'll talk to Dometic directly and see if other colors are available.
                                                    Thanks
                                                     
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                                                      Jasper1

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                                                      Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Tue, 09/24/13 1:01 PM (permalink)
                                                      Yes, I know $35k is HUGE but it is what it is.
                                                      I first tried a Food Truck but the Gelato case would be too high off the ground for the customer to look at the beautiful presentation and taste the flavors and pick the one they wanted. I had to go to a trailer that the floor height is 18" off the ground so they could still see into the case.
                                                      I was trying to get the smallest trailer possible and the small Gelato case was still too long to fit between the front of the trailer and the wheel well. we looked at 7ft wide trailers and that way the case could go anywhere along the wall but we decided 7ft was too narrow with all the equipment so we went with a 8ft wide trailer.
                                                       
                                                      I've talked with most all the food trucks here and all of them said I should do very well with Gelato since Tucson only has 3 Gelato shops and all of them are always over crowded and with tons of people here trying to eat healthier and Gelato being half the fat of ice cream it should do well.
                                                      I was also going to do Panini Sandwiches and Coke is supplying the nice True Solid glass door fridge so that will save me $1,500.
                                                      Concession trailers are so easily sold here that Wells Cargo's agreement is they will buy the trailer back for 10-15% less than I paid for 1 year because I worked a very good deal with them and the president of Wells Cargo is personally involved with my trailer build and I've been promised that this trailer will be the nicest concession trailer in town.
                                                      I bought a 2002 F250 Diesel truck from friends that I can sell for $5k more than I paid for it.
                                                      So with my $50-$60k investment, if it doesn't work out I won't lose my butt. The Gelato case is $5k and that may take a hit of $1,500 if I sold it used. And that figure includes everything including 4 months of supplies, general liability ins, and the $3k wrap and everything else.
                                                      With the popularity and 1/2 the fat of Gelato here I think it's will be a good mobile business.
                                                      <message edited by Jasper1 on Tue, 09/24/13 1:04 PM>
                                                       
                                                      #27
                                                        kapowtruck

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                                                        Re:Mobile Kitchen Interior Lighting Thu, 09/26/13 9:30 PM (permalink)
                                                        I have a basic fluorescent light and one in my hood. Does the job for now but I really like to brighten it up a bit more.
                                                         
                                                        ~Thai Guy
                                                         
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