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jenneti

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Exterior lights Fri, 01/27/12 11:46 PM (permalink)
We completed the build of our shave ice truck a few months ago.  One of the things we still need to add are exterior lighting for night time.  Need something small over the menu toward the front of the truck and another couple small ones to illuminate our logo on both sides of truck.
Any ideas or suggestions?  I found some real cool LED's that fold up and down, but they run on 12v.  Need something that will run on our electrical circuit.
 
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    lornaschinske

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    Re:Exterior lights Sat, 01/28/12 11:17 AM (permalink)
    You need to do a little research. There are times when you should just run 12 vDC. Other times when it is better to pick up a cheap 300Watt inverter (DC to AC).
     
    We have a single 12vDC light in the cart. I would not buy an inverter for the single light fixture. If we ran more lights or signage, then perhaps a small cheapie would be worth it. But we discovered that we can buy the 14 light fixtures in the bus as 110AC and hook up to a $26 (700Watt) inverter that I already have for less than half the price of the same fixtures in DC.
     
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      mikejames533

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      Re:Exterior lights Sat, 01/28/12 5:29 PM (permalink)
      Jenneti, please share the cool 12v led lights that fold. I am in the market for some.
       
      Thanks Mike
       
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        jenneti

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        Re:Exterior lights Thu, 02/2/12 2:13 AM (permalink)
        Hey Mike!
        They're small flood lights that are very bright (maybe too bright for my needs anyway).  They are Maxxima MWL-02's.  I have two black ones that I'm not going to use.
         

         
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          jenneti

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          Re:Exterior lights Thu, 02/2/12 2:14 AM (permalink)
          Sorry Mike...I can't post pics but you can google them :)
           
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            BackAlleyBurger

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            Re:Exterior lights Thu, 02/2/12 8:39 PM (permalink)
            if your using LED lights, its not a big problem to run them off of battery power for extended times, they use next to nothing for power
             
            i left my parking lights on all night a couple of weeks ago just to test..... the volt meter had barely moved, truck cranked right up no problem
             
            a lot of the 120 leds you find are actually 12 volts, with a built in converter, so you wasting power by using them
             
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              mikejames533

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              Re:Exterior lights Fri, 02/3/12 1:35 AM (permalink)
              Thank you Jenneti I found them. A little pricey, but look like nice lights. Let me know what you get worked out for lights.
               
              Are you new to the shave ice business? Have been doing shave ice for several years. I do local events, small fairs, races, and several State Fairs each year.
               
              Mike
              <message edited by mikejames533 on Fri, 02/3/12 2:02 AM>
               
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                jenneti

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                Re:Exterior lights Fri, 02/3/12 9:17 PM (permalink)
                @BackAlley - I didn't know that!  Good info.  If they take next to nothing, then maybe connecting to battery is way to go.  My only concern now is that these lights may be too bright and will be a bug magnet :)
                <message edited by jenneti on Fri, 02/3/12 9:27 PM>
                 
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                  jenneti

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                  Re:Exterior lights Fri, 02/3/12 9:26 PM (permalink)
                  Yeah Mike.  I'm new to the ice business.  Decided to build a full on truck from a 2002 step van.  We can't really do the large fairs because we're not a trailer.  To get our feet wet, I've been doing events at a local high school, the church youth group and some store grand openings.  So far this season I've booked 4 weddings, a couple of food truck gatherings (with hopes of more), and a few small festivals and events.  I'm hopeful!
                   
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                    BackAlleyBurger

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                    Re:Exterior lights Fri, 02/3/12 10:04 PM (permalink)
                    i would like to recommend the maxxima clearance/marker lights..... they only take a 3/4 inch hole, are bright as can be (little triple LED) and practically disappear during the daylight hours
                    they come in several different colors including red amber green purple blue and clear(white)
                    they cost 5 bucks each and a few down the sides will give a great color wash effect !
                    let me find you a pick....brb 

                    <message edited by BackAlleyBurger on Fri, 02/3/12 10:13 PM>
                     
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                      BackAlleyBurger

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                      Re:Exterior lights Fri, 02/3/12 10:18 PM (permalink)
                      a small piece of angle with a 3/4 inch hole id all you need to mount so they point down onto side of truck
                      they draw only 20 milli amps each.....
                      if my math is right that means you can run 50 of these and are only pulling 1 amp
                       
                      the computers in most modern cars pull that much when the car is parked
                       
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                        BackAlleyBurger

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                        Re:Exterior lights Fri, 02/3/12 10:21 PM (permalink)
                        or better yet, a 1 1/4" x 3/4" piece of angle ran down the rain gutter of the truck and it all blends right in like it belongs there...... i was wrong, they are 5.99 each in small quantities, but if you buy them in sets of 10 they are 4.99 each
                         
                        i get mine from randpcarriages on ebay...... they are great to do business with
                         
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                          BackAlleyBurger

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                          Re:Exterior lights Fri, 02/3/12 10:23 PM (permalink)
                          when i did my test i had 7 of these hooked up, 4 16led side markers, 4 maxxima hybrid led brake/running lights in the rear, 15 super bright led each, and 2 front turn signal/markers with 16led each
                           
                          my buddies at the garage say i can probably leave them turned on all week and still get very little effect on the battery... i have a 27 series marine battery under the hood right now
                          <message edited by BackAlleyBurger on Fri, 02/3/12 10:26 PM>
                           
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                            mikejames533

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                            Re:Exterior lights Sat, 02/4/12 1:20 AM (permalink)
                            Jenneti, wish you the very best with your new biz! What shaver and syrups are you using? We use a Swan block shaver and Crystal Fresh syrups.
                             
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                              Dr of BBQ

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                              Re:Exterior lights Sat, 02/4/12 8:58 AM (permalink)
                              BackAlleyBurger
                              when i did my test i had 7 of these hooked up, 4 16led side markers, 4 maxxima hybrid led brake/running lights in the rear, 15 super bright led each, and 2 front turn signal/markers with 16led each
                              my buddies at the garage say i can probably leave them turned on all week and still get very little effect on the battery... i have a 27 series marine battery under the hood right now

                               
                              Have you done any research on interior LED lighting?
                               
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                                lornaschinske

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                                Re:Exterior lights Sat, 02/4/12 11:25 AM (permalink)
                                 
                                For those considering using LED lights.... try to get the "warm" white. If it does not say "warm" white it is usually cool white. Cool white gives some folks (like me) headaches. If cool white flourescents make you ill or feel "off" then the same colour in the LEDs will to. Also food looks better under a warm white.
                                 
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                                  jenneti

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                                  Re:Exterior lights Sun, 02/5/12 7:32 PM (permalink)
                                  Thanks Back Alley.  Those look like a viable option.  I'll definitely check them out.  Funny you mention randpcarriages...that's who I bought the flood lights from.  I had to call to add to my order and they were great and fast. 
                                   
                                  @lorna - I couldn't agree more about the warm vs cool lighting.  Cool gives me headaches too.  Good advice.
                                   
                                  @mike - Thank you!  I have 2 Swan block shavers and I use concentrates from both Hawaiian Snow and Mary Mack's (1-800-shaved-ice.com), it just depends on the flavor.  I like different ones from each supplier.
                                  Hawaiian Snow is more pricey but I feel their flavors are superior to most.
                                   
                                   
                                   
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