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scrumptiouschef

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Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Bl Sat, 01/19/13 12:31 PM (permalink)
I've contracted with a local farm to purchase a variety of cuts off their "Large Black" hog stock. This breed also goes by the names Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Black.
 
I have full access to a professional kitchen with all normal implements as well as a sous vide that can accommodate a 10lb shoulder.
 
I'm getting bellies, shoulders and loins.
 
Any advice from a roadfooder who's worked with this specific breed of pork would be most appreciated.
 
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    Foodbme

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    Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Sat, 01/19/13 5:27 PM (permalink)
    I venture a guess that a Pig is a Pig no matter how you slice it!
    The quality might be better but the cooking methodology must be pretty much the same.
     
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      pnwchef

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      Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Sat, 01/19/13 8:18 PM (permalink)
      The Large Black hog is Big, it will weigh  600 to 800 lbs. We just processed two pigs that weigh 250 ea. with the size being this large, the loins s/b nice size.
       
      Pork belly + Pork loin = Porchetta
       
      Bone in pork chops dbl cut brined in apple brine over night, grilled and basted with apple juice.........melt in your mouth goodness
       
      6 rib or what ever size is needed for a stuffed bone in pork loin...........cut a pocket in each chop stuff with apple stuffing and roast in te oven........ask that they cut off the chine and feather bones so you can cut through and servea stuffed pork chop to each person....this would be like a crown roast only your stuffing each pork chop.
       
      Marinated Pork loin, seasoned and grilled
       
      Pork loin can be cut into 1 1/2' chops and pounded into pork cutlets, served with brown gravy,,,like a schnitzel
       
      Pork Shoulder, we use the pork shoulder and Butt for Carnitas............can also be cut up for a many other Mexican entrees
       
       
       
       
       
       
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        scrumptiouschef

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        Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Sun, 01/20/13 11:50 AM (permalink)
        Thanks for all the tips. Figured there had to be at least one Large Black heritage pork expert in our community. Definitely doing a porchetta, curing one belly for bacon, then slicing the belly into "bacon steaks" giving them the sous vide then finishing them on a flame grill.
         
        One shoulder will be cubed and made into Chile Colorado, we also got the go ahead on getting all the offal so we're going to offer a special offal po boy menu. The liver will go into a mammoth batch of boudin.
         
        Really excited to be working with the Large Black, research indicates it's one of the finer breeds.
         
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          chewingthefat

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          Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Sun, 01/20/13 1:08 PM (permalink)
          pnwchef


          The Large Black hog is Big, it will weigh  600 to 800 lbs. We just processed two pigs that weigh 250 ea. with the size being this large, the loins s/b nice size.

          Pork belly + Pork loin = Porchetta

          Bone in pork chops dbl cut brined in apple brine over night, grilled and basted with apple juice.........melt in your mouth goodness

          6 rib or what ever size is needed for a stuffed bone in pork loin...........cut a pocket in each chop stuff with apple stuffing and roast in te oven........ask that they cut off the chine and feather bones so you can cut through and servea stuffed pork chop to each person....this would be like a crown roast only your stuffing each pork chop.

          Marinated Pork loin, seasoned and grilled

          Pork loin can be cut into 1 1/2' chops and pounded into pork cutlets, served with brown gravy,,,like a schnitzel

          Pork Shoulder, we use the pork shoulder and Butt for Carnitas............can also be cut up for a many other Mexican entrees






          I'm Chewingthefat and I approve of this statement!
          Paid for by the National Hog Growers Association.
           
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            pnwchef

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            Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Sun, 01/20/13 1:28 PM (permalink)
            scrumptiouschef


            Thanks for all the tips. Figured there had to be at least one Large Black heritage pork expert in our community. Definitely doing a porchetta, curing one belly for bacon, then slicing the belly into "bacon steaks" giving them the sous vide then finishing them on a flame grill.

            One shoulder will be cubed and made into Chile Colorado, we also got the go ahead on getting all the offal so we're going to offer a special offal po boy menu. The liver will go into a mammoth batch of boudin.

            Really excited to be working with the Large Black, research indicates it's one of the finer breeds.


            Great idea on the Chili Colorado.................. not saying it has to be for this time.I like the idea of Carnitas, caramelized under the broiler, put on a speciality roll, with Smoked ham, mustard, Pickle slices, Swiss cheese then grilled  to make Cuban Sandwich............Good luck with you Pork project....................pnwc
             
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              pnwchef

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              Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Sun, 01/20/13 1:31 PM (permalink)
              chewingthefat


              pnwchef


              The Large Black hog is Big, it will weigh  600 to 800 lbs. We just processed two pigs that weigh 250 ea. with the size being this large, the loins s/b nice size.

              Pork belly + Pork loin = Porchetta

              Bone in pork chops dbl cut brined in apple brine over night, grilled and basted with apple juice.........melt in your mouth goodness

              6 rib or what ever size is needed for a stuffed bone in pork loin...........cut a pocket in each chop stuff with apple stuffing and roast in te oven........ask that they cut off the chine and feather bones so you can cut through and servea stuffed pork chop to each person....this would be like a crown roast only your stuffing each pork chop.

              Marinated Pork loin, seasoned and grilled

              Pork loin can be cut into 1 1/2' chops and pounded into pork cutlets, served with brown gravy,,,like a schnitzel

              Pork Shoulder, we use the pork shoulder and Butt for Carnitas............can also be cut up for a many other Mexican entrees






              I'm Chewingthefat and I approve of this statement!
              Paid for by the National Hog Growers Association.

              Chewy, coming from the President of the National Bacon eaters association, I am honored............
               
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                scrumptiouschef

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                Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Tue, 02/12/13 5:06 PM (permalink)
                Here's the menu for the food party we threw this past weekend. thanks for all the suggestions y'all. We sold out of food in about 2 hours

                Bacon Steak (cured & smoked heritage pork belly, confit w/duck fat) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley, garlic,lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                Porchetta (heritage pork belly,handmade chorizo,roasted) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley, garlic, lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                Pork Loin (heritage pork-sous vide,cast iron) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley,garlic,lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                Pork Shoulder Steak (heritage pork-sous vide,cast iron) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley, garlic,lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                Chile Colorado (heritage pork,pork stock,red chiles,masa,garlic,hominy) totopos

                Boudin Sausage (pork, beef, green onion,jalapeno,rice) crackers
                 
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                  lleechef

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                  Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Tue, 02/12/13 5:17 PM (permalink)
                  Holy PIG!!!  That is an awesome menu! 
                   
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                    Twinwillow

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                    Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Tue, 02/12/13 6:52 PM (permalink)
                    I wish I knew of a butcher/grocer in Dallas that sell the above mentioned heritage pig cuts. I'm tired of eating factory raised "skinny" pig.
                     
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                      kland01s

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                      Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Wed, 02/13/13 1:28 PM (permalink)
                      Not as a chef but as a pork loving eater, that's my biggest complaint. Pork from the store is too lean!
                       
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                        chewingthefat

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                        Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Wed, 02/13/13 5:08 PM (permalink)
                        scrumptiouschef


                        Here's the menu for the food party we threw this past weekend. thanks for all the suggestions y'all. We sold out of food in about 2 hours

                        Bacon Steak (cured & smoked heritage pork belly, confit w/duck fat) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley, garlic,lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                        Porchetta (heritage pork belly,handmade chorizo,roasted) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley, garlic, lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                        Pork Loin (heritage pork-sous vide,cast iron) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley,garlic,lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                        Pork Shoulder Steak (heritage pork-sous vide,cast iron) pork demi glace, chicharron gremolata (hog dust,parsley, garlic,lemon zest) sweet potato mash w/Vermont maple, brussels sprouts w/caramelized Texas sweet onion, Easy Tiger bread

                        Chile Colorado (heritage pork,pork stock,red chiles,masa,garlic,hominy) totopos

                        Boudin Sausage (pork, beef, green onion,jalapeno,rice) crackers

                         
                        Glad to see you didn't go to much trouble!

                         
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                          scrumptiouschef

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                          Re:Advice Please: Heritage Pork Cooking: "Large Black" aka Cornwall, Devon, and Lop-eared Thu, 02/14/13 11:34 AM (permalink)
                          It's tough to make your name here in Austin. If you're not pulling 12 hour days and writing intense menus you'll just get ignored. We fed about 200 ppl so we managed to get a good crowd.
                           
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