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JohnL08

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Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 9:56 AM (permalink)
I am looking for either a prepackaged chili dog sauce or a recipe for the kind of chili that we get on Hot Dogs when we go to small stands in San Diego, Toledo, Detroit. It is a fine, more dry chili sauce, no beans. NOT Tony Packo's (yuck), not Hormel. Any ideas?
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    Michael Hoffman

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    RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 10:26 AM (permalink)
    I happen to like Tony Packo's sauce. It is what I buy in the supermarket.
     
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      JohnL08

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      RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 10:41 AM (permalink)
      We bought Packos thinking, from the look, it was going to be right-on. It is a finely chopped sauce, but it does not taste like the little stands like Tom Rice and others there.
      <message edited by JohnL08 on Thu, 10/28/10 7:28 AM>
       
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        6star

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        RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 1:28 PM (permalink)
        If the sauce at the various hot dog stands look and taste slightly different, they are probably homemade, but if they look and taste identical, they are most likely an institutional brand (#10 cans) such as Nugget. Why don't you go to one or more of the stands at a time they are not busy, and ask them if they make or buy their sauce, after complimenting them on how good it tastes? If they make it themselves, they probably will be proud to tell you so. If you are lucky, they might even tell you how they make it. If they buy it from a local institutional supplier, you could probably go there and buy it yourself (if you like it enough to use up a #10 can).
         
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          efuery

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          RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 1:35 PM (permalink)
          To expand on 6stars comments - If you like the Toledo hot dog stand sauces why not ask to buy some from them directly. Whether they make it themselves or not I'm sure they would sell you a bowl full for the right price. You could probably buy extra to freeze for later as well.
           
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            JohnL08

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            RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 1:56 PM (permalink)
            You folks may be right. Being the conspiracy theorist, I always think people will immediately turn on you fearing competition. Thats not the case, I just don't live near any good chili dog places. Next time we are there, I'll walk in and try my smile.
             
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              1bbqboy

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              RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 5:18 PM (permalink)
              What constitutes "Toledo style" Chili? A spice variation on Cincinnati style? Is it just for dogs, or is it in a bowl too? The chili dog chili I remember best was woolworth's, a greasy, finely ground, spicy beef chili, no beans, but alas, no woolworth's by me anymore.
               
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                JohnL08

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                RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 6:40 PM (permalink)
                I just mentioned it cause thats where I have had this type and was hoping someone would just know what I mean. I am sure it is not just Toledo that this is available, I am pretty sure it is not home made, likely a canned product because they sell soooo much of it.

                Bill's description fits fairly well. It's good stuff though. I have never tried Woolworth's... the department store? a new one on me.

                ...continued thanks...
                <message edited by JohnL08 on Thu, 10/28/10 7:30 AM>
                 
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                  Michael Hoffman

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                  RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 7:39 PM (permalink)
                  F.W. Woolworth's is new to you? I assume that means you're not familiar with Kresge's or W.T. Grant's as well.

                  FYI: Woolworth's Kresge's and Grant's were what were called dime stores or Five&Ten cent stores. Kresge's morphed into someting called K-Mart.

                  All three had lunch counters where the food wasn't the greatest, but it was cheap and filling.
                   
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                    1bbqboy

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                    RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 7:42 PM (permalink)
                    All dime stores and pharmacies when I was a kid had lunch counters. My family missed no chance to eat when we were out shopping.
                     
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                      ToddMaca

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                      RE: Chili dog sauce Tue, 03/30/04 7:49 PM (permalink)
                      What you are getting in Toledo is probably pretty close to "Cincinnati chili." You can get it a Gold Star or Skyline restaurants. I grew up in Ohio and my family has to mail me spice packets available in a super market to make it. I know it is also available canned. I have only seen it at grocery stores in the Ohio area however.
                       
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                        JohnL08

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                        RE: Chili dog sauce Wed, 03/31/04 8:10 AM (permalink)
                        Thanks. Todd - would love to know the brand name of the spice pack and canned stuff. Do you think they share the same name/manuf? I will start calling Cinci area markets to see what I can find. I am gonna drive to Indiana from Pa. in about a month, so if nothing surfaces by then I am going on a 600 mile grocery spree for chili sauce.
                         
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                          JohnL08

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                          RE: Chili dog sauce Wed, 03/31/04 8:19 AM (permalink)
                          Yes, I remember the dime store counters. Climbed up on the huge, chrome stools beside my mom. I just meant that it has been many years since I saw one still open. Walmart has Generation X'd the concept with the McDonalds in their stores. Now THATS nothing to write home about.

                          Thanks again for the continued help on the chili sauce.
                           
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                            Alexander

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                            RE: Chili dog sauce Wed, 03/31/04 9:01 AM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by JohnL

                            Thanks. Todd - would love to know the brand name of the spice pack and canned stuff. Do you think they share the same name/manuf? I will start calling Cinci area markets to see what I can find. I am gonna drive to Indiana from Pa. in about a month, so if nothing surfaces by then I am going on a 600 mile grocery spree for chili sauce.


                            Kroger stores here in SC carry Skyline both canned and frozen, so that's some indication that they must carry it elsewhere. I don't much care for the canned variety, as it's pretty soupy.

                            There are a gazillion recipes for Cincinnati Chili on the web, and it's quite easy to make. If you try, just remember the following:
                            1. The ground beef should not be browned or precooked.
                            2. Use cocoa.
                            3. Use allspice.
                            4. Don't make it too spicy hot.

                            I've never seen the spice packs - I just season it until it tastes like what I remember.

                            It freezes very well, so you can make large quantities.
                             
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                              angelfood

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                              RE: Chili dog sauce Wed, 03/31/04 9:11 AM (permalink)
                              My grandmother used to make the best hot dog chili and I have not been able to replicate it the few times I tried. I gave up. My aunt told me she used ketchup and ground beef but that didn't work. Eww. The ground beef was very small grained and the stuff was to die for. Does anyone have any ideas what might have been in it. She was raised in the northwestern parts of SC; Spartanburg, Clemson, etc.
                               
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                                Road Trip Hanna

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                                RE: Chili dog sauce Wed, 04/21/04 4:52 PM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by JohnL

                                I am looking for either a prepackaged chili dog sauce or a recipe for the kind of chili that we get on Hot Dogs when we go to small stands in Toledo. It is a fine, more dry chili sauce, no beans. NOT Tony Packo's (yuck), not Hormel. Any ideas?
                                I grew up in Central Ohio and loved B&K Chilidogs. My brother received the recipe from the son of the man who owned the place. I read it once and remember the only liquid was from the fatty meat. Here is something close:

                                1 lb fatty hamburger - no better than 75%
                                1 onion chopped fine
                                1/2 t. salt
                                1/8 t. black pepper
                                1 T. Paprika
                                2 T. Chili Powder (Mexene brand spelling??)
                                 
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                                  1bbqboy

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                                  RE: Chili dog sauce Wed, 04/21/04 7:22 PM (permalink)
                                  mexene is bitter to me. I like gebhardt's, or better yet, williams, or even better!, make my own with cumin, garlic, red pepper, etc,
                                  Bill
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                                    emsmom

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                                    RE: Chili dog sauce Thu, 04/22/04 2:53 PM (permalink)
                                    That sounds like the kind that I make but I add some garlic to mine and keep adding extra chili powder until I think that it is hot enough.
                                    I can't eat ready made chili-it does a number to my digestive tract
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by Road Trip Hanna

                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by JohnL

                                    I am looking for either a prepackaged chili dog sauce or a recipe for the kind of chili that we get on Hot Dogs when we go to small stands in Toledo. It is a fine, more dry chili sauce, no beans. NOT Tony Packo's (yuck), not Hormel. Any ideas?
                                    I grew up in Central Ohio and loved B&K Chilidogs. My brother received the recipe from the son of the man who owned the place. I read it once and remember the only liquid was from the fatty meat. Here is something close:

                                    1 lb fatty hamburger - no better than 75%
                                    1 onion chopped fine
                                    1/2 t. salt
                                    1/8 t. black pepper
                                    1 T. Paprika
                                    2 T. Chili Powder (Mexene brand spelling??)
                                     
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