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koloa818

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what do commisaries charge for rental? Sat, 05/3/08 5:21 PM (permalink)
assuming the commisary is near a major city. the reason i ask is because i may have to build one and may rent it out as well.

thank you
 
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    davebugg

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    RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Sat, 05/3/08 5:59 PM (permalink)
    That's like asking what the cost of apartment rentals are. If you build a commercial kitchen (commissary) you will determine the cost based on your mortgage, inusrance, license, taxes, permit fees, cost of equipment, maintenance,and the cost of your utilities. For example, my electrical rates are 1.8 cents per kwh (my utility owns its own hydro dam projects) so using electrical equipment is a negligible energy cost. But if someone wants to use my propane fryers and stove, that's a whole different ballgame, utility-wise. Not to mention my fryer oil costs.

    I charge anywhere from $10.00 per hour for someone who just needs a place to do some simple hand prep, to $125.00 or more per hour for someone who needs the run of my kitchen to use my equipment, utensils and dishwashers. There is a hell of a lot of work that I have to do in order to keep my kitchen up to speed for the health dept. when I have folks renting my kitchen.
     
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      GoTTi

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      RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Sun, 05/4/08 1:42 AM (permalink)
      for a mobile food comm. it is $250 a month here in los angeles, ca.
       
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        koloa818

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        RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Sun, 05/4/08 2:29 PM (permalink)
        thanks all.

        GoTTi, for the 250 per month, how is the schedule created? I guess there is a cap on how many people can rent the commisary per month.

        davebugg, thanks for the info. quick question, what kind of folks typically rent your kitchen? caterers who do a few jobs per month?


        if i build a commisary and have at least 2 people rent it for a 250$ per month, that greatly would help me.
         
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          Rootsman

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          RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Sun, 05/4/08 4:39 PM (permalink)
          In Orlando last I checked 3 years ago it was $30/month for a MFDV. The two I checked out were disgusting though and fortunately found better alternatives.
           
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            davebugg

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            RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Sun, 05/4/08 8:08 PM (permalink)
            quote:
            Originally posted by koloa818

            thanks all.

            davebugg, thanks for the info. quick question, what kind of folks typically rent your kitchen? caterers who do a few jobs per month?


            I have concession and vending guys, and a few who are doing things like jerky, sauces, and sandwiches.
             
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              kensandyeggo

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              RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Mon, 05/5/08 10:40 PM (permalink)
              Some vendors pay $75 a month for a hot dog cart, but never show up there because the place is such a wreck. They tow their carts home and clean and replenish them there. Long as a nosy neighbor doesn't complain, that seems to be how it often works. The 75 bucks is just for a piece of paper to show the inspector.
               
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                Nightshift

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                RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Wed, 07/9/08 2:52 PM (permalink)
                In my state your commisary has to sign a piece of paper daily (or when you worked) and you have to keep it on record.
                 
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                  roadmaster

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                  RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Thu, 07/10/08 1:38 AM (permalink)
                  Nightshift, aren't you from the Volunteer State? The commissary I have set up is the kitchen of a liquor store/deli. Health Dept. gent knows the kitchen and said it would be fine, but I never contemplated having a sheet to be signed daily by them. Luckily, that's of no hinderance to me personally, because as I mentioned earlier, my commissary is at a liquor store and I am a daily customer already. The owners are very nice people. I figure that cleaning at the end of the day would be more pleasant with a cold adult beverage and maybe a little Jimmy Buffett!

                   
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                    UncleVic

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                    RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Thu, 07/10/08 1:44 AM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by roadmaster

                    I figure that cleaning at the end of the day would be more pleasant with a cold adult beverage and maybe a little Jimmy Buffett!



                    Ahh yes! Living the good life there!
                     
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                      Nightshift

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                      RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Tue, 07/15/08 2:43 AM (permalink)

                      Yes I am in Nashville TN but not from here. LOL. I am originally from Port Huron, Michigan which is about 60 miles northeast of Detroit. I like it better here.

                      I got this thing from the health dept and it said the commisary has to sign it everyday. However I may read it again. Maybe I am wrong.

                      I am bummed I can't have chili or slaw made with mayo.

                      You have any loopholes u want to share?
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by roadmaster

                      Nightshift, aren't you from the Volunteer State? The commissary I have set up is the kitchen of a liquor store/deli. Health Dept. gent knows the kitchen and said it would be fine, but I never contemplated having a sheet to be signed daily by them. Luckily, that's of no hinderance to me personally, because as I mentioned earlier, my commissary is at a liquor store and I am a daily customer already. The owners are very nice people. I figure that cleaning at the end of the day would be more pleasant with a cold adult beverage and maybe a little Jimmy Buffett!


                       
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                        GoTTi

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                        RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Fri, 07/18/08 11:04 AM (permalink)
                        what schedule do you mean? 250$ a month is high, there is another place across town from me, farther out, that has spots for 175$ i might move to, its just another 20 miles a day i dont want to drive.
                         
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                          fryfactor

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                          RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Mon, 08/18/08 7:54 AM (permalink)
                          Hi Night shift I live in Franklin,TN Iam in desperate need of A kitchen for rent. We manufactur a product that we currently sell,we are looking for somewhere to call home for 4-8 hour per week. Please let me know if you heard of any places. 615-472-8752
                          quote:
                          Originally posted by Nightshift


                          Yes I am in Nashville TN but not from here. LOL. I am originally from Port Huron, Michigan which is about 60 miles northeast of Detroit. I like it better here.

                          I got this thing from the health dept and it said the commisary has to sign it everyday. However I may read it again. Maybe I am wrong.

                          I am bummed I can't have chili or slaw made with mayo.

                          You have any loopholes u want to share?

                          quote:
                          Originally posted by roadmaster

                          Nightshift, aren't you from the Volunteer State? The commissary I have set up is the kitchen of a liquor store/deli. Health Dept. gent knows the kitchen and said it would be fine, but I never contemplated having a sheet to be signed daily by them. Luckily, that's of no hinderance to me personally, because as I mentioned earlier, my commissary is at a liquor store and I am a daily customer already. The owners are very nice people. I figure that cleaning at the end of the day would be more pleasant with a cold adult beverage and maybe a little Jimmy Buffett!



                           
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                            Nightshift

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                            RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Mon, 08/18/08 3:58 PM (permalink)

                            Did you find a kitchen yet?



                            quote:
                            Originally posted by fryfactor

                            Hi Night shift I live in Franklin,TN Iam in desperate need of A kitchen for rent. We manufactur a product that we currently sell,we are looking for somewhere to call home for 4-8 hour per week. Please let me know if you heard of any places. 615-472-8752
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by Nightshift


                            Yes I am in Nashville TN but not from here. LOL. I am originally from Port Huron, Michigan which is about 60 miles northeast of Detroit. I like it better here.

                            I got this thing from the health dept and it said the commisary has to sign it everyday. However I may read it again. Maybe I am wrong.

                            I am bummed I can't have chili or slaw made with mayo.

                            You have any loopholes u want to share?

                            quote:
                            Originally posted by roadmaster

                            Nightshift, aren't you from the Volunteer State? The commissary I have set up is the kitchen of a liquor store/deli. Health Dept. gent knows the kitchen and said it would be fine, but I never contemplated having a sheet to be signed daily by them. Luckily, that's of no hinderance to me personally, because as I mentioned earlier, my commissary is at a liquor store and I am a daily customer already. The owners are very nice people. I figure that cleaning at the end of the day would be more pleasant with a cold adult beverage and maybe a little Jimmy Buffett!




                             
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                              hbarnard

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                              RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Wed, 08/20/08 1:31 PM (permalink)
                              quote:
                              Originally posted by Nightshift


                              Yes I am in Nashville TN but not from here. LOL. I am originally from Port Huron, Michigan which is about 60 miles northeast of Detroit. I like it better here.

                              I got this thing from the health dept and it said the commisary has to sign it everyday. However I may read it again. Maybe I am wrong.

                              I am bummed I can't have chili or slaw made with mayo.

                              You have any loopholes u want to share?

                              quote:
                              Originally posted by roadmaster

                              Nightshift, aren't you from the Volunteer State? The commissary I have set up is the kitchen of a liquor store/deli. Health Dept. gent knows the kitchen and said it would be fine, but I never contemplated having a sheet to be signed daily by them. Luckily, that's of no hinderance to me personally, because as I mentioned earlier, my commissary is at a liquor store and I am a daily customer already. The owners are very nice people. I figure that cleaning at the end of the day would be more pleasant with a cold adult beverage and maybe a little Jimmy Buffett!



                              Nightshift, If TN is like florida the commissary keeps a Log of your daily visits and as long as the Chili and Slaw is made in a licensed kitchen with a Labeled container on your cart. I believe that as Long as the chili is served @135 F. or Higher and the Slaw is Kept @ 42 F. or below in a cooler. That maybe this is the loop hole..They can only WRITE YOU UP. NOT SHUT YOU DOWN. Again thats in FL. Good Sales !!!
                               
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                                Nightshift

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                                RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Wed, 08/20/08 3:19 PM (permalink)
                                They told me no chili, because its so called hazardous food. However I can have chili beans in sauce. If the can says chili I have to have a lab test it to make sure its not hazardous.
                                 
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                                  davebugg

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                                  RE: what do commisaries charge for rental? Wed, 08/20/08 3:39 PM (permalink)
                                  quote:
                                  I believe that as Long as the chili is served @135 F. or Higher and the Slaw is Kept @ 42 F. or below in a cooler.


                                  You need to check with your specific health department. In most states the hot-holding temps need to be above 140F, and the cold holding below 41F. There have been a lot of revisions over the last couple of years, and some places are not up to speed yet.
                                   
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