PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !!

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (TFitz)

Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:55:06 GMT

signman

acer2x

I think the "Corned Beef Special" was invented in Philly. That's cold thin sliced corned beef,cole slaw and Russian dressing on rye. I rarely see that in delis elsewhere.

Here in Baltimore it's known as a "Cloak & Dagger", or just call for a "103". If it's an old timer serving you, he'll know just what you mean.

At the Parkway Deli in Silver Spring they call it the "Meal in Itself". When I tell them I want a "Cloak & Dagger" they look at me funny.

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:18:05 GMT

Hey, BILLYB,
Thanks for updating us with your Carnegie Deli pastrami pics...
wish they were bigger pics....I would love to see that pastrami better..

I do see your 3 little pigs real clearly , though...
OINK, OINK ...

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (BillyB)

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:17:03 GMT

on a few mornings for breakfast I sliced the Carnegie Deli Pastrami.

The Pastrami just got better and better with every sandwich.
This was about an inch think and it melted in my mouth. Nice to see I can have this travel 3000 miles and be so good. This is the best Pastrami I have had in many years, and I will order it again.

these three little pigs were born yesterday morning. The one with the black spots will be our feeder pig and the other two pink little girls will breed with our Boar. The one with the spots came out fighting, they must have had an argument in the womb.......Bill

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (BillyB)

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:25:03 GMT

Hey Ellen, The short ribs will have to wait. I'm going to carve 18# Apricot glazed Ham, Turkey, stuffing, gravy, mashed potatoes, veggie, caesar salad,rolls, relish tray and Cheese cake for dessert. We do 4 feeding and serve 500 people in 15 minutes, its is three buffet lines kicking butt with carvers at the end of each line. You have never seen food served so fast..........Bill

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:39:45 GMT

bill voss

that'll be a heaping mountain of short ribs to make enough for 2000
folks.

Can you make it for 2002 folks ??? (so BILL VOSS and I can sneak in there ?!?)
I wanna see that "short rib" mountain !

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:37:14 GMT

Buffalo Tarheel

I just learned that David Sax will be speaking in Buffalo this week . I hope enough pastrami lovers come out to hear him this week in Buffalo, which is not a hotbed of that food.

I hear you, Buffalo Tarheel ! As most people think of Buffalo WINGS, not Buffalo PASTRAMI !
But I'm confident that David Sax will get the Buffalo crowd reminiscing about the pastrami they once knew in Buffalo..
(and hopefully with the re-opening of RISA's Deli on the horizon, they will know real good pastrami once again)
(it's amazing how much I've learned about Buffalo pastrami in the last 5 minutes or so...!!! All I did was google "pastrami in Buffalo", and I'm suddenly an expert now, lol )

Hey, too bad you won't be in BUFFALO to meat up with David ! Yes, bad timing!
I was on vacation in L.A. in October, and just missed seeing him at LANGER'S by 2 days ...(I had to fly back east!)
But I was grateful to take an "early out" from work and see him in Philly a week and a half later...

I have a couple of friends in TAMPA.... they are supposed to go see David Sax tomorrow night there, Wed. ..
they'll be giving me a full report !! www.savethedeli.com

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (Buffalo Tarheel)

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:10:25 GMT

Ellen,

This is such a cool report. I just learned that David Sax will be speaking in Buffalo this week (November 19), and I would be going to see him. Too bad I am in the DC area this week. What bad timing! I hope enough pastrami lovers come out to hear him this week in Buffalo, which is not a hotbed of that food.

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:05:30 GMT

joerogo

Way to go Ellen!!!

HOT THREAD OF THE WEEK
Amy and Chris write: "ellen4641 travels to the City of Brotherly Love to meet author David Sax in the 'Pastrami in Philly!! And my "Meat-Up" with David Sax!! "Save the Deli," he says!!' thread (http://www.roadfood.com/F...t-he-says-m550941.aspx) in the Trip Reports forum. Not only does Ellen chat with David Sax about his new book, but she also indulges in a sandwich at the Famous 4th Street Deli to boot. This dovetails with the Sterns' NPR discussion about the shrinking number of good delis around the country."

Thanks JOE ROGO for pointing this out, as I had'nt seen this yet.... Where did Amy and Chris write this?!
I've broken bread with Amy & Chris, so they know I'm a dedicated "freser" ...(look that one up in your "yiddish dictionary online", lol ) Thanks for the nice plug, Amy & Chris...

I love all the directions this pastrami thread has taken! We've shared some pointers on Philly deli history, and current Philly deli info, we've had one of our Roadfooders try the Carnegie for the first time (mail ordered to Washington State),
and we've had the same Roadfooder comment that he's cooking SHORT RIB PASTRAMI for 2000 people !!!
Hey, can you make it 2001 people! (I'd like to crash THAT party!)

The only way for this report to be TOTALLY complete would be for DAVID SAX HIMSELF to jump on here and say a few words!!
I was sure hoping he would (it's never too late, DAVID!) Are you out there, David ?!?
But for now, I'll have to settle for the nice thank you he wrote me on my FACEBOOK page.... thanking me for the LARGEST BLACK & WHITE COOKIE he'd ever seen..( I brought him a cookie, a coconut macaroon, and an almond Rugallah from the FAMOUS 4th St. Deli... to "MEAT-up" with him at the Philly library)

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (joerogo)

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:18:39 GMT

Way to go Ellen!!!

HOT THREAD OF THE WEEK
Amy and Chris write: "ellen4641 travels to the City of Brotherly Love to meet author David Sax in the 'Pastrami in Philly!! And my "Meat-Up" with David Sax!! "Save the Deli," he says!!' thread (http://www.roadfood.com/F...t-he-says-m550941.aspx) in the Trip Reports forum. Not only does Ellen chat with David Sax about his new book, but she also indulges in a sandwich at the Famous 4th Street Deli to boot. This dovetails with the Sterns' NPR discussion about the shrinking number of good delis around the country."

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (catherine s)

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:43:50 GMT

What an awesome experience!

Thanks for sharing.

Looking forward to your next adventure.

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (1bbqboy)

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:20:29 GMT

that'll be a heaping mountain of short ribs to make enough for 2000
folks.

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (EatingTheRoad)

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:29:11 GMT

Keep us posted on how you pull this off !! (pics, too , if you can, okay?!?) Sounds like quite a feat; I'm very intrigued! Glad I got your creative juices flowing.... I have that way about me !!

I'd love to see pictures of that!.....actually I'd love to be a guest at that

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:53:06 GMT

BillyB

Hey Ellen, I have to plan for a Christmas party for 2000 people in a few weeks . I will be curing and smoking my Angus Briskets and boneless short ribs Homemade Short Rib Pastrami - Ruhlman.com.......

Those are going to be 2000 LUCKY party people !!
I looked up that "homemade short rib pastrami" link, and that guy has quite a following!
He got SO many comments regarding the pic of the crusty looking pastrami...

Keep us posted on how you pull this off !! (pics, too , if you can, okay?!?) Sounds like quite a feat; I'm very intrigued!
Glad I got your creative juices flowing.... I have that way about me !!

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (BillyB)

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:31:44 GMT

Hey Ellen, I have to plan for a Christmas party for 2000 people in a few weeks and I'm spending my time looking up Pastrami. You got my creative (Pastrami) juices moving and now I will be curing and smoking my Angus Briskets and boneless short ribs this winter. I think its a great idea for the short ribs and may even taste like the old time pastrami with a bit more fat flavor in the meat......Homemade Short Rib Pastrami - Ruhlman.com..........Take care.........Bill

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (BillyB)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:22:42 GMT

ellen4641

BillyB

Hi Ellen, The shipping was about $47, I didn't think $19.95 was bad for the Pastrami.

Wow, $47 for shipping !! I suspected a high price, cause one had to click for further details regarding shipping costs.
HOWEVER, definitely worth it for YOU, being you are way out there in Washington State...
for me, personally, I'm only a 2 and a half bus ride away (Atlantic City to NYC), so I can enjoy my sandwich right at the Carnegie way easier than you can...

MORE questions : Does the pastrami come in that vacuum sealed bag? The kind I hate trying to open? I am probably doing it wrong, the few times I tried it...
And was it easy to cut the pastrami?

Hi Ellen, The Pastrami was in a Real think plastic Vacuum bag. It was placed in a try, so I just opened it and dumped juice and all into the container. The pastrami was east to cut, but I also have a set of sharp chef knives. I would not recommend using a cerated knife. I slice it and then warm it on in a cast iron griddle. This is something I would do again. I am finishing 2 Black Angus cows and our Sow is ready to deliver some piglets in a week. I looking forward to getting some good cuts off the beef. I raised them on my pasture and finished them for 120 days and will hang them for 18 to 21 days. We will sell all the hamburger and larger cuts of meat to carve in our Cafe...............................And you think you like meat ????? Take care Bill

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:15:50 GMT

BillyB

Hi Ellen, The shipping was about $47, I didn't think $19.95 was bad for the Pastrami.

Wow, $47 for shipping !! I suspected a high price, cause one had to click for further details regarding shipping costs.
HOWEVER, definitely worth it for YOU, being you are way out there in Washington State...
for me, personally, I'm only a 2 and a half bus ride away (Atlantic City to NYC), so I can enjoy my sandwich right at the Carnegie way easier than you can...

MORE questions : Does the pastrami come in that vacuum sealed bag? The kind I hate trying to open? I am probably doing it wrong, the few times I tried it...
And was it easy to cut the pastrami?

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (BillyB)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:50:11 GMT

Hi Ellen, The shipping was about $47, I didn't think $19.95 was bad for the Pastrami. The cheese cake was about $17. I just though it would be nice to sit in Washington State eating a New York Deli Sandwich. The little girl next door to me is waiting for a lung transplant so she will also enjoy the cheese cake. I figured the Pastrami was a small price to pay for something that I love. House fire 75K, Tractor stolen 12K, Carnegie Deli Pastrami Sandwich "PRICELESS"...........Take Care................BillyB

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:24:27 GMT

BillyB

Ellen, I gave up the breast today for the Carnegie Pastrami. The package came in yesterday and it was like christmas. I opened the package at 1pm and took out the two pound hunk of goodness.

Christmas came early or you !! In the form of a 2 lb hunk of meat ...
Hey, I noticed the price for the 2 lbs of pastrami on the www.carnegiedeli.com website..
It seems like "such a deal" at $19.95.
However, it was tough to find the SHIPPING COSTS....I was'nt able to do the "calculating" from this computer at work...

So, let me ask you, just HOW MUCH WAS SHIPPING?? It had to be a heavy package!
along with the jar of mustard that is included...

So glad you enjoyed your meal!

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (BillyB)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:03:24 GMT

ellen4641

or maybe I was referring to our NEW Billy, "BillyB"...
lol ....

better insert the name "corey" in there instead...

Ellen, I gave up the breast feeding today for the Carnegie Pastrami. The package came in yesterday and it was like Christmas. I opened the package at 1pm and took out the two pound hunk of goodness. It was packed in juices and looked tender and juicy. I buttered the Dill Rye bread to grill and then sliced the Pastrami thin and cooked it slow in the pan. When it was heated I melted swiss cheese and topped with warm kraut and pilled on top the Rye Bread. I served it with a homemade Potato salad and the Carnegie mustard on the side so we could add as needed. It was Great, everything I expected. The Carnegie Cheese cake was a great touch for dessert. I'm not saying I won't go back to breast feeding, but I do have a pound of Pastrami left and don't want to loose the pastrami taste in my mouth...................BillyB

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (signman)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:30:38 GMT

acer2x

I think the "Corned Beef Special" was invented in Philly. That's cold thin sliced corned beef,cole slaw and Russian dressing on rye. I rarely see that in delis elsewhere.

Here in Baltimore it's known as a "Cloak & Dagger", or just call for a "103". If it's an old timer serving you, he'll know just what you mean.

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:50:27 GMT

or maybe I was referring to our NEW Billy, "BillyB"...
lol ....

better insert the name "corey" in there instead...

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (wanderingjew)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:44:22 GMT

ellen4641

bill voss

wanes.

Let me rephrase my sentence.......here goes! : "I will feel a twinge of sadness when interest WANES on this pastrami thread".
Now, THAT'S better, right? I realize that WEAN should mostly be used to say "I am trying to WEAN Billy off of this breastfeeding..
he's 5 years old, already!"

Bill Voss still Breast Feeds?
or are you referring to Billyboy???

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (JAKE91)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:34:05 GMT

Those 2 look like brudder and sista.

...and I still say pastrami and corned beef taste like baloney... save your sheckels and go to the supermarket for a pound of delicious bologna,individually wrapped american cheese, a jar of mayo and a giant loaf of white bread....now that's eatin'!!!!!!!!

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (joerogo)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:45:33 GMT

ellen4641

bill voss

wanes.

"I am trying to WEAN Billy off of this breastfeeding..

You never know what that Bill Voss is going to do next

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (saps)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:16:28 GMT

Are you saying that Wandering Jew waxes?

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:26:41 GMT

bill voss

wanes.

Let me rephrase my sentence.......here goes! : "I will feel a twinge of sadness when interest WANES on this pastrami thread".
Now, THAT'S better, right? I realize that WEAN should mostly be used to say "I am trying to WEAN Billy off of this breastfeeding..
he's 5 years old, already!"

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (1bbqboy)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:32:46 GMT

wanes. or waxes. but that's WJ's department.

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (ellen4641)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:12:09 GMT

AHI MPLS

I always thought that you were a purebreaded CATSKILLASAURAUS. IE- all the meat that's fit to eat!!! Peace darlin' and LONG LIVE THE DELI!

Hi DAWN in Minneapolis!! "CATKSILLASAURAUS", that's cute!

And special shout outs to JOE ROGO, TWINWILLOW, and MIAMI DON for thinking I have a cute face !

This has been a fun thread; it lasted longer than I could've ever hoped...
still, a twinge of sadness when the thread "dies off" , and interest weans !
(that just means I've gotta hit another pastrami joint to report on, lol ....)

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (AHI MPLS)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:20:21 GMT

Ellen, this is starting to remind me of the Geiko Gekko commercial... " What?! you're British? I thought you were Australian! " Myself, I always thought that you were a purebreaded CATSKILLASAURAUS. IE- all the meat that's fit to eat!!! Peace darlin' and LONG LIVE THE DELI!

Re:PASTRAMI in PHILLY!! And my "MEAT-up" with DAVID SAX !! "Save the Deli", he says !! (Nancypalooza)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:02:01 GMT

that sounds like a nice celebration!